Help Family Member or Friend With Love Marriage Reconciliation Stopping Divorce

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sat Jan 08, 2005 10:00 am

"forkinthefork" wrote:

A friend of mine was telling me the other day how he ran into someone he thought he loved very much but couldn't do anything about it at that moment, he wanted me to help him bring them together again somehow.

This was my reply:

Hello,

Such spell-work is undertaken all the time by spiritual doctors on behalf of their clients.

1. You will find two good spells used by rootworkers to "put two people together" listed in "Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic" on pages 32 and 33 under the entry for "Apple."

2. A series of commonly used spells to bring people who have quarreled back into a state of receptive friendship and love are also given in "Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic" on pages 195 and 196 under "Sweeteners."

3. In "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice" at the Honey Jar page at http://www.luckymojo.com/honeyjar.html there are other sweetening spell for loves.

4. There are also several moving candle and lodestone magic spells for this sort of work referenced elsewhere.

suffering mom · Unread post by **suffering mom** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:54 pm

HI, I am looking for help in how to bring my family back together.

My son married while in the military. We adored the young lady, but she did not feel the same. We still love them both and our new grand son who will be 1 this week. For some reason she wants him to be only part of her family not ours.

My son married this girl after serving 2 tours in Aftganistan. She then demanded 6,000.00 dollars to pay for his half of the wedding, I don't know how things are done in Detroit but here in the south the bride pays for the wedding, besides her mom made 3 times as much as us plus was getting child support for all 5 of her children from all 5 of their fathers. If I had had the money I would have given it gladly but at the time I did not have it.

As it turns out my son was deployed early for Honduras, and we gladly paid for the honeymoon, no mention of any help from her family, when they returned we were not invited to the wedding ceremony, as the honeymoon was first, and the wedding was second.

My son was then deployed to Iraq. She tormented him, saying that if he did not find a way out of the service, she was going to divorce him. He came home on emergency leave, he came to spend time with his father and I, he was so not himself that I took him to a psychologist, per his asking. She said that he had ptsd and should not return overseas. My son had never wanted to be anything except a solider since he was 4, he was 4th generation army on both sides of our family, and was working on helicopters, which was what he wanted to to as is still doing today.

The Army let him out, it was only a couple months early, with an honorable discharge, but strongly suggested that he see a VA counsolor after his release. My daughter in law said he did not need this. She then got pregnant.

We did see them one time, the Christmas before the baby was born. My son wanted help finding a car like his fathers, this was a dream car for them both, my husband sold him the car for 1/2 price. We never even got a thank you. Also by then I had some money and was glad to give them the nursery furniture for Christmas.

Since then, I have seen my son and grandson only twice, for about 15 minutes each visit.

The first time, when the baby was born, she wanted only her family at the hospital, not us. My mom and I were invited down for a 15 minute visit, after driving 2 1/2 hours one way. We went. We were polite, loving, and left when asked.

We next got to see the baby on a trip through their area 6 months later for about 15 minutes again. I still have no pictures of the baby.

We love all three of these people, but now they asked us not to contact them so we haven't. The only explanation I can get out of them is that I take pain killers for a severe bad back and she thinks I am a junkie. This information was passed through my mom. Actually, I take my medication strickly as prescribed by my doctor, since I have become completely disabled.

She also said she had made a list of thousands of things I had done to abuse my son. We are talking about a young man who that the only thing ha did not get was a new car at 16, but got everything else including horses, boats, trips to Europe at 15, skiing trips, a 100 dollar pair of tennis shoes about every other month, and never had a hand laid on him. I did take his bedroom door once, after I caught the boys drinking and watching porno at the age of 16 in my house.

But down to the help: I pray every day , I hope, I wish, but at this point I feel like my heart has been ripped out and stomped on. All I want is to see my family. I do not wish to interfere with there marriage, he loves her and I accept that.

If there is anyone out there with any suggestions please let me know I would be eternally grateful. I only have one son, and I wish to treat this young lady like she is my own daughter

I know I have rambled on but if you have read this far I thank you cat

Unread post by **J Simulcik** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:03 am

Hi there-

As an Army officer, I unfortunately have seen many similar situations. It is truly the dark side of our military community, but there are people and organizations doing their best to make things better.

First, I would do a honey jar on your daughter-in-law. Primarily, it will sweeten you to her and allow you to see your family more often. You will also be in a better place to conduct any further work necessary. Maybe add herbs associated with clarity, to dispel the misconceptions she has about you.

For your son, try burning a blue gentleman or altar candle dressed with healing oil, or a healing miracle vigil light.

Some of the jobs that may be helpful, depending on how the situation plays out, are:
* Blessing
* Peaceful Home
* Return to Me
* Road Opener
* Stop gossip
* Devil's shoestring

Good luck!

YouTube · Unread post by **Miss Bri** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:45 pm

Hi Suffering Mom,

I am so sorry to hear of your troubles. You should know that there are actually a lot of situations like this and that you are not alone.
Because you love your son and your daughter-law like her or not is part of his life (and therefore your life) I suggest putting both him and her in a honey jar along with yourself and anyone else who is appropriate to the situation.

You can learn about honey jars here: http://www.luckymojo.com/honeyjar.html

Basically they are used for long-term sweetening and attraction. You want the wife to be sweet and loving to her husband and to you and your family, so get that honey jar started.
I would also get at least three condition oils to work with in this case: attraction oil, influence oil, and I would use peaceful home oil. You can read about each of them here:
http://www.luckymojo.com/oil-attraction.html
http://www.luckymojo.com/oil-influence.html
http://www.luckymojo.com/oil-peaceful-home.html

Anoint the candles that you burn on your honey jar with a combination of these three oils--attraction to attract your son and your daughter in law back to your life, influence oil to help you gain influence over your daughter in law's decisions, and peaceful home oil so that your home and family find peace once again.

It sounds like your son needs protection, strength, and mastery over this situation. I like John the Conqueror root for these purposes:
http://www.luckymojo.com/johntheconqueror.html

Good luck to you,
Bri

suffering mom · Unread post by **suffering mom** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:58 pm

Hello, Thank you for your replys. I will certainly try these, I hope that these can help put my family back together. I love both of these children and my grandchild and would do anything for them that is within my power.

Morigainne · Unread post by **Morigainne** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:38 am

I am looking for something a little stronger than a honey jar to bring my stepdaughter and her father back together.

I tried the honey jar, and it was slow, but effective in opening the dialogue for them to begin to work through some issues. I just need to kick it up a notch and take it in a little different direction.

I do not live near them, nor do I have access to their property.

Thank you.

Unread post by **Mother Mystic** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:45 am

I caution you against doing work to "wither away" her relationship with her mother. No matter what the woman has done, she is still her mother. What I recommend you do is focus on the relationship with her father. Does she visit your home? If so, I would work on making your home a peaceful and welcoming place to her in addition to continuing the honey jar. Do a whole house cleanse, lay down protection and infuse the house with Peaceful Home products. When she visits, she will definitely note the difference between a controlling/manipulative environment and one that is welcoming and peaceful. As to the honey jar, are you currently using Attraction oils or powder on the candle? If not, I would recommend using either Attraction or Magnetic oil on the candle to draw her closer to her father.
Susan

Morigainne · Unread post by **Morigainne** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:23 am

I"ve done all the above...including the attraction oil etc. The mother is quite manipulative and controls my stepdaughter's access to her dad by taking away her cell phone, taking her car keys, etc. I'd really rather just stop the mom in her tracks. I've been working and defending and protecting against this for almost a decade and now the daughter is turning 18 soon. Whenever healing and/or progress is seen, the mother immediately undoes it.

YouTube · Unread post by **Miss Bri** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:50 pm

Hi Morigaine,

I agree with Mother Mystic that you don't want to wither away a mother's relationship with her daughter--first of all, its unlikely to work, secondly that kind of stuff can go bad on you quickly and end up making the problem worse not better. You can, however, do a Stop Gossip working that is aimed specifically at the mother to make her stop bad mouthing her ex and and you to her daughter. See this page for more info:
http://www.luckymojo.com/stopgossip.html

You can also do work to mend and heal you husband's relationship to his daughter on top of the honey jar.
You could set vigil lights for them (these are also long-term, steady kinds of work) or you can have
http://www.luckymojo.com/candlemagic.html#vigil
You could also use figural candles and do a moving candle spell where you physically bring them closer over a period of days
Or you could make two mojo bags, one for him and one for her with roots, herbs, and curios that will foster love and connection.

Those are just some ideas off the top of my head.

good luck,
Bri

Unread post by **Literarylioness** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:39 pm

Morigainne,

I applaud you on wanting to help your husband and his daughter to heal their relationship. I agree with Bri and Mother Mystic about doing anything to the relationship between the daughter and her maternal relatives. Nothing good ever comes from doing anything like that.

Since your stepdaughter is already 17 and soon to be an adult, I think you should work on her.

I would foster her independence and need to for freedom. She must feel very constricted by her mother and if she acts out, her mother will be more willing to let her move in with her father. I would work on the daughter to be stronger with her mother and to be able to make her own decisions.

It is really the daughter who will be guiding this process and I would burn Road Opener candles for her.

Mary

Morigainne · Unread post by **Morigainne** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:26 am

would I need to include other Road Opener items like floor wash, bath crystals, etc? And if so, do I need to somehow use them on or around my stepdaughter when she comes to visit, or ???

Unread post by **J Simulcik** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:43 am

Using other Road Opener products would lend strength to the work, but aren't necessary, especially if you are following Mother Mystic's advice of creating a peaceful and welcoming environment with other products, which I feel is an excellent idea. The two work well together in providing a route for her to leave by, and a good place to go when she does. As others have said, it is better to leave the Grandmother-Mother-Daughter relationship intact, but to lessen their influence and ability to control your stepdaughter.

lovebird · Unread post by **lovebird** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 6:12 am

Hi everyone,
I have done all I can do about this situation and now I'm asking for your help. The this is my daughter has 2 children the baby daddy to the second child mother wants my daughter because she doesn't have a girl and she wants mine and she has stated this to me. My daughter give her a grand daughter which the mother and the daddy treats different from my 1st grand daughter. This hurts me and most I'm being kept away from them. They treat my daughter very poorly and I'm not understanding why she still wants to be around them.

I had moved to VA she stayed in NC and has to intention on moving up here with her family ie: me and her sister. My daughter is sickly seizures that were brought on by her 1st birth of her daughter she is a severe anemic and she has major depression that she is suppose to take meds for and she doesn't because she can't never get to the pharmacy. she wanted to move out of their house and they called the police on her and was fighting her because they didn't want her to take the baby. She finally got her own place now she is moving back in with them. I'm not understanding.

What I need to know how to get rid of the baby daddy mother and the baby daddy I need my daughter to move up here with her family she is in NC alone she is only 20 with 2 children and no good people around her. I thought of causing harm but I wouldn't want anyone to harm me eventhough people have. I just want my family back.

Mzcee

YouTube · Unread post by **Miss Bri** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 6:44 am

Hi Mzcee,

I am so sorry to hear of your troubles. So if I understand this correctly, your daughter is currently living (along with her two children) with the baby's father and his mother -- is that right? Being with them is not good for her or her children and you want them to move back to where you and your sister live in Virginia--correct?

If that is correct, I would start a honey jar and put you your sister, your daughter, and your grandbabies all in the jar together. I would burn blue or yellow candles on the jar anointed with Attraction, Stay at Home, and Peaceful Home oils:
http://www.luckymojo.com/honeyjar.html
http://www.luckymojo.com/products-stay-at-home.html
http://www.luckymojo.com/attraction.html
http://www.luckymojo.com/peacefulhome.html

I would start with the honey jar. If you send your daughter letters through the mail, checks, or anything paper, you can also dress those things with sachet powders (I would use the same combination given above.)

good luck,
Bri

lovebird · Unread post by **lovebird** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 7:53 am

Hi Bri

Yes, my daughter lives with her daughters daddy and his mother. I want my daughter and granddaughter to move to VA with me her mother and her sister.

mzcee

lovebird · Unread post by **lovebird** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:00 am

I'm sorry Bri I also meant to ask...you say put us all in the jar, do you mean our names and if so.. on separate pieces of paper or on 1 piece of paper with all of our names?

Buttercup · Unread post by **Buttercup** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:13 pm

I want to cast a love spell for a certain person,so that she finds her soulmate and be happy with him,cause she's currently with my soulmate and, although they're not in love,they stay together for other reasons.

I don't want to cast a breakup spell on them since I don't won't to cause harm, all I want is that she finds the kind of love I'm experiencing so that he chooses her true love over her current boyfriend and he will be with me and everyone will be satisfied.

So what I wanted to ask is which spell and products would you use for something like that? I would really appreciate any help because,though I've used magic before,this will actually be my first Hoodoo spell.

Thanks!

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:16 pm

I would get a reading on the situation to see what's ACTUALLY going on. I wouldn't go casting any love spells on her until you know about the behind-the-scenes from a reader - that could backfire on you if the two of them really are good together. A reading will also help you see if the guy is worth your time trying to get him back or not.

Might be a better idea to do some cleansing baths on yourself, and then do a strong love drawing spell for yourself, using qualities that you want in a partner, rather than a specific name. You're likely to end up with MUCH better results doing that, then trying another route.

Buttercup · Unread post by **Buttercup** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:52 pm

Devi,thanks for your reply! About him,I know it's worth it cause I knew from the first moment that he was the one. I thought about a love spell about me,but I think it's no use since I know for sure that he really loves me. Actually his problem is that we shouldn't be together because he promised her that it's over between us,but he can't keep away from me for more than a few weeks,and even then we still see each other but only as friends,not intimately.From what I gather she doesn't really mind,she just doesn't want him to leave her or other people finding out. That's why I thought about helping her find her true love. What do you mean when you say it could backfire on me if they are good together? What way could it backfire? I got 3-4 readings in the last few months,mainly from people I know who wanted to practice their reading skills,and all of them told me about happiness and marriage with him(they were general readings on the situation). I may get a professional reading in a month or so,since I am a little short of money right now

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:26 pm

I mean that if they're actually good together, and you cast a love spell for her to find a good suitable lover...the spell could very backfire on your intents by strengthen their relationship and solidifying it.

Also, this guy is cheating on one girl with another. He isn't showing signs of actually breaking up with her, but rather has promised her he won't see you anymore, but is still seeing you. Sounds like he's having his cake and eating it too! If he *does* love you, he doesn't have the balls to be honest with your friend and just be with you. That's pretty crappy. If he *doesn't* love you, then he's being a jerk by continuing to see you behind his girlfriend's back and stringing you along in the meantime. This guy has serious character flaws from the sound of it, and doesn't sound like he is emotionally mature enough and capable of actually being in a real relationship in the forseeable future.

Like I said, I would do some cleansing work on yourself, and perhaps some Clarity work, too to help you see things more objectively. Then when you're feeling level-headed and centered, do some introspection on the qualities you want from a long-term partner. Don't describe this guy - really be honest and truthful with yourself and make a list of the real qualities that would suit you in a relationship. The do a nice Love spell for yourself to draw someone with those qualities to you. (The key to this is *NOT* wishing quietly in the back of your head that it's this guy. But trust the Divine to bring you whoever is best for you. REALLY best for you.) Then if that guy comes to you - great. If he doesn't, then you can bet someone alot better is on his way!

But for your own peace of mind, I would schedule an appointment with a professional reader & rootworker as soon as you are able.

freegirl · Unread post by **freegirl** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:44 pm

Although I know in Wicca the way you are going about it is what they would recommend, I think in Conjure it's more effective to go for what YOU want-- which is to break them up and bring him to you. Separation candles I'm told are less explosive than break-up work. You could set cut and clear candles for both of them on each other, while setting love candles (bewitching, compel, love me) on yourself and him. I agree a reading is in order too.

He may be the one for you-- I don't know-- and while he may be weak in this situation, it doesn't mean you wouldn't be good together. I would be reluctant to be too altruistic and work on her, however. Until you've really gotten inside her head, you don't know for sure why she's with him and if he's telling you it's all her neediness, he may be misrepresenting the situation, too. It's possible he's misrepresenting it to himself. that's why a reading with a good rootworker who can also prescribe which spells to cast would be really helpful. The AIRR rates are very reasonable, and it will save you a lot of time in the long run.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:38 pm

If you are unwiling to perform break up work or something to end the relationship then doing love-drawing may only create a love-triangle situation (or squre if you are involved).

Getting a reading can definately help clarify the situation and also indicate what course of action needs to be taken.

Buttercup · Unread post by **Buttercup** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:37 am

I know it can complicate things.

the idea behind this spell was that if she found someone else too then there will be a reason for her too to think about breaking up with the man she's currently with.

I thought that this will give a chance for other spells to work more effectively, since the stability of the current situation doesn't leave much to be done, apart from a breakup or separation.

I suppose a separation spell is the right way to go, but, as mentioned above, I've been for such a long time into the Wiccan philosophy that it seems plain wrong. Even the spell about finding her the perfect man without her asking me to do so is plain wrong for wicca, since it is manipulative.

What I'm trying to say is that I was thinking of what kind of spell I could cast to help me in this situation, and for the past 6 months I couldn't find something that didn't seem mean to me.

The only thing I had come up to till now was a spell about cleansing his energies so that he can function without burdens and maybe think of things in a different perspective. I had the opportunity to do this since he has some health problems that I could take of this way and he agreed. He even promised to carry the mojo I made for him! The spell was about cleansing me and him from everything negative and bring new opportunities and it as based on Van Van. So if you are trying to find what you could do for 6 months and can't come up with something other than that you get really desperate.

Two nights ago I asked St. Anthony to help me find my true love that I lost and a few minutes later I came up with the idea of finding her the perfect man!

I did a rune reading to see what will happen if I cast the spell and the answer was that I'm reaping rewards at present that come from planning my next steps honestly in the past and in the future I should follow my intuition and trust my emotions and my heart.

So I guess this is a good sign (as mentioned above, I won't have money for a proper reading for some time, so...)

Now I'm not writing all this because I want you to agree with me or something, I'm just explaining what's going on so that you have the right perspective,especially since I carry the wiccan ethics with me.

Thank you all for your help, I'm really interested to hear what you have to say on my problem. Right now I could use all the help I can get!

gbenson · Unread post by **gbenson** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:36 am

I know you have said you do not have the money for a reading, but I would suggest you save up because you may only need to take a small action rather than a large one.

In my circumstance which is sort of similar, I was going to use the Intranquility spell BUT I got a reading and I was told all I needed was a basic love spell to bring the person back into my life, so I nearly went way OTT.

freegirl · Unread post by **freegirl** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:46 am

I think you should get a reading and learn more about Conjure. If you're really deeply into the wicca philosophy, then ask for help on a wicca forum.

NotDorianGray · Unread post by **NotDorianGray** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:57 am

Uh, I hate to tell you this, but that feeling of 'just knowing he's the one' could be PLAIN OLD HORMONES. Love doesn't always work like that.

If you can't come up with a way of dealing with the situation without feeling mean, then it could be that what you're doing is manipulative and wrong and you're carrying a lot of guilt about it. That's not a strong place to work from. You could be setting yourself up to have your work blow up in your face.

Get a professional reading.
Do some clarity work.
Stop obsessing and CALM DOWN.
Talk to this guy, really talk to him. See why he wants to stay with your friend. "I promised to" is NOT a good reason. If it isn't working with her, he'll leave her. If he wants to be with you, he'll be with you.
You need to sit down and have a serious think about this.

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:08 am

Amen, NDG!

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:51 pm

That is why I love NDG. He always says what I really want to say, LOL.

If you follow the Wiccan philosophy, and you are holding true to those values, then my question is "why are you on a hoodoo board?" Being "mean" or whatever has nothing to do with being Wiccan. There are some rootworkers who will not perform certain work unless it is justified by God, and the situation can be worked out given what divination says. In addition, you need to understand that your Wiccan ethics do not carry over into Hoodoo.

In addition, sometimes doing a reading for yourself is not accurate because you are too emotionally involved. Im not saying that some readers cant do readings for themselves, but getting an objective point of view is better to get a reading by someone else.

If you cannot perform what might be necessary, then it is probably time to move on. I am not saying you HAVE to do break up work, hot foot, separation, or whatever, but if there is no way around it, then it is time to move on. I would get a reading as soon as you are able to.

Buttercup · Unread post by **Buttercup** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:23 pm

The reason I'm in a hoodoo message board is because I am interested about hoodoo and I don't know if it is right for me because it's too early to tell.

I am not Wiccan but I have had much more experience with Wicca in the past years and I carry it with me.

I am intending to get a reading as soon as I find some extra money. I just posted on this board because I wanted to see how you would handle it (you being people who have more experience on hoodoo than me). I actually wanted to look into a different system because I needed a new perspective on the matter, since the old one lead nowhere at all. I am not saying that anyone is mean or anything,

I am just saying that I don't have as much confidence in what to cast as I would have in other systems because I am afraid I might do something wrong or bad due to lack of knowledge. I appreciate everyone's opinion, especially since I've read so many helpful posts on these boards.

Even if I realise that hoodoo isn't for me, I will still be happy that I've gained deeper understanding on it.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:40 pm

Well, I think Devi has given you some pretty sound advice. However, I noticed that you feel that manipulating the situation is going against Wiccan principles. These beliefs are going to clash with what is recommended here since you are holding true to these principles..

I would recommend that you read http://www.luckymojo.com/hoodoo.html

It will help you learn more about hoodoo, and the ways it can help you.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:11 am

There are several AIRR readers who do ten minute readings for ten dollars. I am one of them. Elvyra is another. Find us here:

AIRR: http://readersandrootworkers.org

If you can't afford a ten dollar reading, you won't be able to afford a bottle of Van Van oil and three candles, either. Not trying to be cruel, just realistic.

Buttercup · Unread post by **Buttercup** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 5:34 am

I didn't know about the ten dollar readings,thanks a lot Cat! I can afford a ten dollar reading and the things I have to order after that I suppose,for the full reading I would have to save up for some time.

freegirl · Unread post by **freegirl** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:32 am

Cat's ten dollar readings are awesome. They are intended for one quick question. I did one because when I didn't know what to get from Lucky Mojo for my first order. Awesomeness!

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:18 am

I know Miss Bri also does $10/10 minute readings. I had one with her for a quick question that really helped me out!

Ruth2 · Unread post by **Ruth2** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:22 pm

Buttercup wrote:I won't have money for a proper reading for some time, so...)

You can get a 10 minute reading for $10. I highly recommend this at the very least.

Ruth.

jsb595 · Unread post by **jsb595** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:59 pm

Situation: Our great grandson, who is 8 years old, had lived with us for 6 years. His mother, our granddaughter, dropped him off and occasionally would visit or call. Visits were a couple times a month and phone call were few and far between. She was and is a party girl. 30 years old, no job, live in boyfriends, collects public assistance, etc. Her aunt, my husbands daughter, pays all her bills and has always been a jealous and controlling person. We think she is "angry" because the boy never developed a relationship with her. 18 months ago the mother came and took him to live with her and her boyfriend. We never saw this coming. After several months we have eventually been allowed to see him for 3 hours a week. He tells us he "just wants to come home" and asks "why we don't save him". He is traumatized and "runs away from home" every weekend and stays with different neighbors who have kids about his age. His mom and aunt laugh at him when he says he wants his "old life back". No one talks to him, he eats his meals in his bedroom, he and his clothes are dirty, he lost all his friends, his toys, his bed,his dog, etc because they now want him to have the "life" they live.

I have sewn a talisman in his jacket, put a prayer behind his picture, light candles, and put angelica root powder and motherwort together. Any suggestions to help open a door to get him back.

Thank you.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:10 pm

Hoodoo and magic would be great and all in this situation. But you need to pursue, and should have pursued this the legal way. My recommendation would be to call CPS or the equivalent in your state. If you can prove she is an unfit mother which obviously she is, and is neglecting her child (i.e. dirty clothes,emotional abuse, and mental abuse), then you can pursue this the legal way. The legal way is the best way to go because then you can have her parental rights revoked, and you would be the legal guardian without doing that...she will probably always be able to get her son when she feels like it. However, the legal road is going to be something you need to get legal advice about.

I think you have done the right thing by protecting this child. Perhaps you can do sweet jar on the mother, and burn a purple candle with do as i say oil, compelling oil/powder, and licorice root to have her change her mind, and give him back to you. In this case, I would even do a moving candle spell...to move him towards you, and away from her. For some reason, I feel like you should call on the help of St. Jude so that he can help assist you in getting this boy back in the home he belongs.

Brida · Unread post by **Brida** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:17 pm

This really breaks my heart...

I know this is a common situation in our society today. It saddens me that a child's needs, heart, mind and soul are not tended to at such an impressionable age. I am sad, and I urge you to do what you can in the physical world in regards to the legal arena. As for the spiritual, listen to Stars; there is some great advice there; esp. the honey jar on the boy's mother.

You and your family; esp. this little boy have my prayers, indeed.

with love and prayers,
Brida

Aina2 · Unread post by **Aina2** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:28 pm

This is truly heartbreaking!

I feel like you should also petition St. Anthony, who is called for returning people to you, and he has such a caring vibe about him, he might come through to you in a very dramatic way.

My prayers are with you and your great grandson.

jsb595 · Unread post by **jsb595** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:43 pm

We have tried the legal route but because we are great grandparents we do not have any rights. His maternal grandfather, my husbands son, suddenly passed away a year before our great grandson was born and his maternal grandmother is a drug addict. The boys father and his family don't want the responsibility either. We are so frustrated and all for absolutely nothing. We have also thought about asking her if we could give her, his mother, money every month if she will let him come back but am afraid if she takes it the wrong way we could lose all contact. As far as CPS they look for physical abuse since emotional abuse is hard to prove. I keep a journal and, even though we are not allowed, contacted the school guidance counselor and asked her to talk with him. She did initially, but that has waned because her "job description" has changed. At this point we are so grateful for the 3 hours and try to give him a sense of "normalcy" and reassure him that there will be an end and how much we love him.

Tomorrow I am not working so I will get the supplies for the sweet jar and purple candle. We both pray to St. Jude every day but nothing has changed. Our hearts are broken and we are so sad for all of us.
This situation is so bizarre, frustrating and hard to comprehend how no one cares. We thank you so much for your support and prayers.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 4:06 pm

Keeping a journal is extremely wise. Emotional abuse may be hard to prove, but neglect isn't. He is kept dirty which is neglect so I would keep pursuing it through CPS. Great grandparents as well as other relatives do not have parental rights as they are not the parents. However, if he is taken out of the home, and anyone comes forward to take him under their care, they can be given guardian rights, and parental rights for the mom can be revoked. Just keep on praying, and perhaps you might want to call Lucky mojo tomorrow and see what they can recommend to bring him home. I would even have the missionary church under lucky mojo to burn some candles for you.

Emotional abuse is hard to prove, but literally right down and even RECORD this woman if you have to. But you are right do not press her too much as you may not be able to see him again. So do what you can right now, and keep pressing forward.

I am so sorry to hear about this though. I work with children on a daily basis as a intern therapist, and gosh I can't believe what some "parents" do to their children. Just keep on praying. I would continue to pray to St. Jude, and you might want to consider working with St. Michael for protection, and victory, and perhaps St. Barbara for strength. Call LM and see what they recommend, and perhaps they can light some candles for you.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 4:10 pm

In addition, I recommend doing some uncrossing work on your great grandson as well, as well as some banishing work to help remove the obstacles that prevent you from getting him back. Something simple you can do for him is get an egg, and put it over his picture.Through the egg at a tree, and I would do this at least once a week to help get the negativity from him. For the banishing work you can simply dress a black candle, and write that "remove all obstacles" and dress it with banishing oil or powder.

jsb595 · Unread post by **jsb595** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 4:25 pm

Additionally to this senseless situation, it is hard for something to change because his mom does nothing. She sits on the couch and watches tv all day/afternoon. She is 30 going on 31 and thinks she is a "princess" ! If she texts you her signature is "princess", her cell phone rings, "princess you phone is ringing"... and so if it doesn't affect her it doesn't matter.

We also signed him up for breakfast at school because this 8 year old gets himself up and ready for school. The school also has a "weekend program" where they send home a bag of food for the weekend.

We did the right thing with and for him. We loved him, kept him safe, paid for preschool and extra activities, so we have no regrets. We always asked her to participate and come with us or come and have dinner and she was always too busy. She never wanted to be involved and even today does nothing with him. So why the door is still closed we don't know. We just need help it getting it open for him before his anger and sadness take over.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 4:50 pm

The door is closed on you because you have no parental/guardian rights. The most powerful thing you can do is to document, and call CPS. Documentation is the key here. Like I said you need to pursue the legal way seriously if you want your great grandson. Hire a lawyer or seek legal advice if you can on top of the magical stuff.

jsb595 · Unread post by **jsb595** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:16 pm

Ok. I will call CPS again tomorrow and also set up another appointment with the attorney to give him an update and question if there is any other avenue to pursue. Maybe I just need to be pushed!

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:23 pm

I would get legal advise at first, and then see what he says to do. I wouldnt call CPS just yet unless you have some new information that they do not know about.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:00 pm

Since all the legal advice has been covered and you've been given such sagacious advice, I'll just chime in on the conjure bit.

If you feel justified in taking action and truly feel that this mother is unfit and that the child is not only better off with you but desires such, then go ahead and work conjure towards those aims.

I recommend a reading which can give you a personalized course of action and may also offer you to the opportunity to get a professional to handle your case.

Sweeten up the mother to keep her open and willing to bring back the child to you. Create a honey jar but along side it work a doll baby aimed an influencing her thoughts and actions. As the honey jar is going speak to the doll baby tell her that she needs to bring home the kid. Add a bit of heat from the candle flame of the honey jar to get her to actually move.

Second I'd work a FWP conjure. This protection spell will actually help even in cases of neglect and emotional abuse. In your prayers let the Spirit know how bad the neglect is and cry out for the protection. As one of the guardians I'd actually name the CPS and others. This spell has an aggressive element to it that will remove the mother from the situation if she continues the way she's going. I've used this in a similar case with an emotionally abusive father and it removed him from the child's life and placed him in the care of his grandparents.

Follow this up by working daily petitions to the Guardian Angel of the child. Ask that he be brought home, ask that he be brought back from the darkness into the light of the hearth. Work with Spirit Guide Oil and Protection.

If you work with saints then get Saint Anthony to get involved along with Saint Michael. Gentle Saint Anthony can work miracles in situations like this, with Saint Michael adding an element of fire to get things going and ending the suffering.

Good luck and my prayers are with you.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:04 am

Hello, I am glad to see you have taken the conjure advice given, and i am holding you all in my prayers.

Of all the people here, i think starsinthesky7 has the most actual experience with the legal / CPS aspects of cases like this. Her advice is always good.

Use those 3 hours per week to give him lots of love.

Make sure he has some method of phone access to you in case of an emergency.

jsb595 · Unread post by **jsb595** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:38 am

What is a FWP conjure?

Thank you to all of you for your concern, it is so appreciated.

None of this would have occurred if the mother had done this in a good way. If she would have talked with him and told him what was going to happen and then shared him and help him to adjust instead of severing all ties to his life at once.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:01 pm

FWP= fiery wall of protection

Unread post by **donnalee** » Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:52 pm

Advice please,

I will try to make this long story short & to the point.

55 years ago my father had a affair. There was a baby born, my half brother Johnny. There was a paternity suit & proof my dad is his father.

When my half brother's mother died, 16 years ago, he found out the truth. His mother had kept it a secret from him. Why I don't know.

I received a call from him 16 years ago. I too was not aware of his birth. I was shocked and it caught me off guard. However I was very nice to him on the phone and told him to call again & we could talk.

He never has called back.

Needless to say I was VERY VERY upset that my Mother & Father had hid my brother from me. The explanation I was given by them was that not only was my father's adultery the reason my parents had divorced, but also my father is Caucasian and my brother is African American, and at that time this was considered difficult in many ways.

I want to have a relationship with Johnny, I have tried to find him. I have the same phone number as I did when he called, so he could have called me. It's as though he fell off the planet.

I feel we are both victims here and we have been cheated by decisions not of our making. I want to know & love my brother. I think of him so often & lately can't get him out of my mind.

Please give me a spell to work on him to contact me. Any spells appreciated.

Thank you ( sorry so long)

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sat Apr 03, 2010 7:06 pm

mzcee --

A separate paper for each.

donnalee --

You can petition to St. Anthony as he is the saint great for finding lost person and things. This candle can be lit at the missionary church or you can purchase one yourself. Also, you might want to consider hiring a private investigator on the situation as well, or see if you can do a people search online if you can, but I am most certain that St. Anthony suit your needs.

http://www.luckymojo.com/saintanthony.html

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sat Apr 03, 2010 9:45 pm

Here is a link where we discussed some conjure on how to locate a lost friend/relative.

There are a few other mentions if you perform a search on the forum, but I am a fan of the black tobacco method:

Contact Me, Call Me, Reconnect Spell Questions and Answers
contact-me,-call-me,-reconnect-spell-qu ... t2982.html

Donnalee2 · Unread post by **Donnalee2** » Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:28 pm

Very interesting Conjure Man, I will give this my best. Thank you.

jsb595 · Unread post by **jsb595** » Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:52 am

We had a meeting with the attorney and not much was resolved. He admits we are in a very difficult situation. If legal proceedings are started we most probably will lose all contact, at least initially. He is going to contact CPS and see if he can get someone to look into the situation WITHOUT involving us initially so we can still have contact.
I have done the honey jar with the baby doll, sewn an amulet in his jacket and am going to order the FWP and Compelling spell kits this morning.
Last month I had LuckyMojo light a Saint Jude and Holy Family candles for him. Any other suggestions in this area?

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:07 pm

I would keep with what you've got going. Keep working them and consider professional rootwork help as an option.

I worked a similar case once, except in that instance a mother was refusing to let the father be in their baby girls life. The mother was falling under the sway of her new boyfriend who sought to really hurt the ex-husband. One of the things that helped bring the child back into his father's life was a moving candle spell I used that employed a petition paper that joined the two parties using the child's name. I was insipired by the wonderful honey jar spell recorded by Miss cat for getting someone to pay child support. I recommend you look at Hoodoo in Theory and Practice page on honey jars to get a better description of that.

I wish you success

jsb595 · Unread post by **jsb595** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:38 am

Thank you. I think I should contact LM for some professional rootwork. I have been working on some spells but nothing has moved or changed for a month. We feel as if we have hit the legendary brick wall and it has been increasingly difficult to find hope. We were allowed to see him for 2 hours on Friday of this past week and he is getting more of something - we can't put our "finger" on it but he is just as frustrated as we are. We asked him how things were and he got tears in his eyes and said he just wants to "have his old life back". So success would be a good thing for him. But again thank you for your input and please keep us in your prayers.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:10 pm

I would definitely contact the an AiRR rootworker or professional rootworker to help you with your needs. I will definitely keep you in my prayers, and keep us updated.

lachina · Unread post by **lachina** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:03 pm

I have a dilemma, my 14yr old wants to stay with his dad next school year, he has a girlfriend over where his dad lives and i think it's his hormones that are doing the talking.

my question is what can i use to GENTLY influence him to stay with me this school year. i know that he's under age and that my word is LAW until he's 18 but it seems that his dad is not being a man and telling him that he must do as i say. i have various herbs and skull candles.

i want to gently do this, my son is very hard headed and i don't want this to blow up in my face

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:20 pm

You can work with Influence products on a white skull candle to help him come to the decision of staying.

Work with Rosemary which helps mothers and wives have control over their households for peace.

You can also create a doll baby and working with compelling herbs you can speak to the dollie to convince him he wants to stay.

Good luck.