Can Spells Back-Fire, Blow Back, Cancel One Another, Reverse On Me, or Harm Me?

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 5:49 pm

Using love products are not going to make someone go distant and lack of experience isn't going to change this. Conjure revolves around the efficacy of spirit; it is *they* who do the work for you.

I'm sorry, but people need to take the time to learn what they heck they are talking about. Crossing and covering his name with yours is just fine, it is a time-tested, old method of writing petition papers and has worked fine from candle spells to things as gentle as honey jars.

Any decent reader can tell you that your issue isn't the work that you've done, but there is something underlying here. For example, perhaps his sole goal was to have sex with you. Magic takes time to work, he goes cold two days after sex. That isn't the result of magic that is the result of *him.*

Get a reading and find out what really went wrong and if it is worth remedying.

DelArca · Unread post by **DelArca** » Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:40 am

So you're saying your will and experience is of no consequence? That is one of the strangest things I have heard here. A spirit is not going to help someone in a difficult task without will or focus. I find crossing over a name with my own name to be very powerful, but on the coercive side. In a love situation I prefer a different way, that is just me. I am giving account of personally using LM products daily for several months. I am not privy to your esoteric knowledge of unwritten hoodoo methodology.

ConjureMan Ali wrote: I'm sorry, but people need to take the time to learn what they heck they are talking about.

I have read everything on this website and I have Cat's manual of herbs etc. What else would you recommend that would provide me with this uncommonly wonderful knowledge?

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:02 am

Obviously you haven't read the material close enough. Crossing and covering someone's name has been done by conjurers as a means of producing gentle and sweet love for long before you were doling out advice, . The simple act joins two people together, forms a cross, a crossroads, unites names, and allows the petitioner to influence them all by simply writing your name on top. You've picked up conjure for little less than a year and yet you think that your own experience trumps what's been used in the tradition for generations of people who've passed this down and live it regularly.

Miss cat teaches to cover and cross someone's name in honey jars, people have been teaching this method for generations and yet your experience vastly outweighs them and so you tell people its coercive and imply they should do differently than they are being taught by actual conjure workers.

As an example one of the oldest love conjures in hoodoo with the intent of finding true love is to write the word, "my husband/wife" three times, cross it with your name three times, then place it in your shoe so that you'll be led right to that person. This was taught to me by a 85 year old conjure woman in Virginia who helped hundreds of women find spouses with that little spell. But of course this poor woman must not have known that she's giving out this dominating and coercive conjure.

Secondly, actually bother to read my post with a clear mind, as I never said will-power or experience make no difference, I said they have no bearing on making a love product "backfire" as the concept doesn't exist in conjure.

You'd like to learn this uncommonly wonderful knowlege then stop coming into this tradition with your preconceived notions and actually learn what is being taught by conjurers, its the only way to learn any tradition. If you had done this, you would quickly understand how this form of petition paper in question is a wonderfully effective method used in conjure.

Spend some time learning before jumping up to give your "experience." While the forum's purpose is to allow people to help one another and all are welcome to share, we will not allow it to further confuse people by spreading incorrect information that clearly goes against what they would have been taught by Miss cat and others.

MadameKoiteh · Unread post by **MadameKoiteh** » Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:20 am

Peace to All,
I do agree that name papers are a classic and tried and true method of love workings. It's so prevalent a practice that even school children use them in the African American tradition and others to connect with those they "love or like." Many young girls use names and elementary numerology tricks that are popular amongst the school crowd to foster puppy love, they just don't call it conjure or Hoodoo. They use it as a game! I've personally seen it done many times. I don't think sgm was a victim of any backfiring on that account. sgm, if you used Come To Me oil, then in a way you did achieve your purpose, because he came to your bed, yes? To keep him or rekindle his interest is different than to make him "come" to you initially. The reading that was suggested for you is a great idea.

Rose quartz is also a gentle and beautiful stone that is marvelous for love. You can cleanse your stone, re-program it, and use it for something else if you have not discarded it already. There is no need to feel guilty, you have not done anything dirty or wrong. You are looking for love, a very noble pursuit and one in which you have much company!

Peace and Blessings,
Madame Koiteh

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sat Aug 13, 2011 1:12 pm

We do not use rose quartz or crystals in Hoodoo. Im not saying they arent useful or you can't incorporate them in hoodoo, BUT its not a traditional hoodoo technique or material.

DelArca · Unread post by **DelArca** » Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:34 pm

You're arguing semantics, obviously there are varying degrees of 'coercive' and you've got your own colloquial slant on that definition as do I.

I never said that my experience trumps your experience or the experience of anyone else. I answer only the requests on here where I feel I have some fresh perspective to add. I don't think I am infallible, I am trying to learn just like most everyone here. On matters of opinion or experience, however, I don't think things can necessarily be seen as 100% wrong or right.

I hope you will, also, read my posts with a clear mind as I never said the products will 'backfire' on you.

Cheers!

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:46 pm

Never said that you did, unlike some I am capable of responding to several people in one post. As I responded to the concept of "backfire" I also responded to your incorrect assertions.

When it comes to this tradition there are right ways of doing things and wrong. Your implication that the original poster did something incorrect by following a traditional method of working was and is wrong. Now you've learned and can add that to your experience.

This coversation is now over. The poster has been advised of getting a reading, any attempts to continue to move this discussion in a direction other than intented by the orignal poster will be seen argumentative.

fresh_pots · Unread post by **fresh_pots** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:35 am

I started spellwork suggested to me back in April.

Since then, nothing but bad things have happened, my mom got in a car accident that almost killed her, totaled her car, left her with NO CAR, her bank account got overdrawn by a company that wasn't her fault caused her not to come up with the money for the rent so I had to sell all of my musical instruments that took me YEARS to save up to buy just to pay the rent.

On top of that, I've been EXTREMELY depressed, and the love doll that was made for me not only didnt work, but had no effect on the target who has since then not contacted me...

not only that, but the boss fix honey jar/spell for my promotion and work had no effect.

I want you to know that I have FULL HEARTILY followed ALL instructions....and advice...my mom and I went to the Lucky Mojo store in April and got all of our supply's there...

I had a lot of belief in this...I kept having belief even when bad things started happening.

I'm not sure what to do, but I don't see any POSITIVE results...only been negative. Any advice would be appreciated.

Unread post by **Miss Ida Lundin** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:31 pm

Well correct supplies is wonderful, but it is not all you need to be successful at working magic. Did you go to a reader and see if you were able to do this work for yourself? If you aren't gifted for the work the best supplies in the world wont make much difference. It's not only about following instructions.

Maybe you should ask a professional for a reading and see whats up, maybe have them work on your behalf, you seem to be in need of strong cleansing and mental and physical healing work.

But if you don't believe in the efficiency of magic I suggest you stop searching help with rootwork and stop buying spiritual supplies.

Either way I think the best idea for you right now is to seek medical help for your depression.

fresh_pots · Unread post by **fresh_pots** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:38 pm

Um, YEAH I went to a reader.

As for the depression, you would be depressed if all this crap happened to you and you had the added stress to deal with.

Medical help? Seriously? Unless doctors can reverse time I doubt that would help.

imjewell · Unread post by **imjewell** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:43 pm

Dear fresh_pots,

I checked your past posts and found that
1) you have a job when many folks these days can't find work, and you were actually considered for a promotion--a good sign;
2) your mother was NOT killed in a potentially deadly car wreck;
3) you were able to keep your home because of your investment in musical instruments which you were able to cash in on.

Other people on this forum would have posted how hugely thankful they were to have had such rare good luck under those circumstances. Every person on Earth, at one time or another, suffers from depressing, stressful events. Your experience is neither more nor less traumatic than the next person's. Good-natured folks usually try to find points where they have had similar experiences and can help one another cope. This is using compassion rather than whining and complaining and blaming.

I think you may have bitten off more than you can chew with your several different spells. When you are feeling overwhelmed by life, perhaps the first task is to get yourself feeling better. It doesn't make sense to work a love spell to draw someone to you when you are not feeling or acting very lovable. It doesn't make sense to work an attraction spell for money or luck when you have an aura of depression and negativity around you that pushes the happiness and good things away.

Perhaps more experienced rootworkers on this forum can suggest soothing baths, empowering mojo hands and blessing rituals that will help ground you and set you up for success in your future work. You are so lucky to live where you can visit the Lucky Mojo store. I'm sure you had a good time on your shopping adventure there. Surely, deep in your heart, you would like to go back and find some more interesting things to experiment with.

I wish you much love, luck, success and peace--and many, many blessings.

Unread post by **Turnsteel** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:45 pm

Fresh Pots.

It is very possible that, as Miss Ida Lundin pointed out, that you simply lack the talent to do magical work effectively. This can be hard for people to accept, because it is common thought that today anyone can do anything if they try hard enough, and that simply is not always true.

It's like singing, some people are born with a beautiful voice, and if they practice and apply themselves they can become virtuoso's. Others are born with a good but not spectacular voice, but with practice and hard work they can become very good. Others will never sing well. So it is with magic, some of us are born with a large gift, others can learn to o work for themselves, and a few have no talent for it at all.

Also...

fresh_pots wrote:Um, YEAH I went to a reader. As for the depression, you would be depressed if all this crap happened to you and you had the added stress to deal with. Medical help? Seriously? Unless doctors can reverse time I doubt that would help.

You're beginning to come off as rude to people trying to help you, I am sure you are not intending to so I mention this so that you may curtail this.

As for the stress and depression, despite what you seem to believe medical help can do a world of good, counseling is also of great aid to people in situations like yours.

I do hope you get the help you need, i will pray for you and your family.

Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:18 pm

I just want to say that you have been given some good positive true heartfelt advice.
Imjewel even took the time to go back and point out the postive things that are going on which was kind, and right.

Believe in Yourself first, start there. We all go through ups and downs in life and we all make mistakes, but it is how we handle those challenges in the face of adversity, overcome the inevitable no matter how bad that may be, and the choice we make to walk down the road of doom and gloom or the road of bright hope for the future and what it can hold for us that will ultimately effect what happens a few years down the road from the "rough times" today.
I recommend Blessing Products. I also Believe that anyone can work with these products. They are for prayer, for hope and blessings.
http://www.luckymojo.com/blessing.html

I'd also still go back to Miss Cats recommendation, spend $10 on a reading with a Member of AIRR.
http://www.readersandrootworkers.org

When-- not where--- when-- there is a will there really is a way. The choice is yours. Timing can be everything. The choices we make today effect tomorrow. The choice is up to you.
Take Care.

fresh_pots · Unread post by **fresh_pots** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:17 am

Okay, I can see I'm obviously not getting through here...

Anyway, I am not by far a negative person and count my blessings everyday. I do not walk down the path of "gloom and doom" and, while the suggestions are great and I appreciate that, the point is, too many bad things have happened in such a short time and I've been told since I was very, very young that I am gifted and have a lot of power to do that what I need to do as far as spell work goes by multipul gifted root workers/readers...so, I don't think that is the case.

Anyway, while the obvious negative has not happened... I.E.
1) you have a job when many folks these days can't find work, and you were actually considered for a promotion--a good sign;
2) your mother was NOT killed in a potentially deadly car wreck;
3) you were able to keep your home because of your investment in musical instruments which you were able to cash in on.

these are still all negative...obviously, I am not getting my point across...

so, I thank you all for your insight. But I'll have to disagree on all above advice...

I have been through enough in my life to know what is normal and what is not...and this is not.

DelArca · Unread post by **DelArca** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:03 am

Do you study astrology? This may be a set tumultuous time in your life right now which magic may only improve so much(example: Saturn return ages 27-32 or so). Just an idea.

I can understand why you would be depressed with everything that is has happened and is happening. Lack of faith in your work is not going to increase your success, however.

I suggest a thorough cleansing such as the 13 herb bath for 7 days. Properly dispose of your old works and begin again after the 7 days. This time start small. Work on a couple of things along the lines of: self love, healing, peace, protection, general luck, steady work etc. Do a little everyday.

In the next 1-3 months after that, when you begin to feel less depressed, take it further if you desire. The most important part of your spiritual practice is how you are feeling inside.

I feel your frustration and I hope things improve soon.

Nessa · Unread post by **Nessa** » Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:32 pm

Hello Cat;

First I want to say my best friend and I love your website...This is the most well organized website we have ever seen as a matter of fact I'm here with my laptop and he's right next to me with his...It's the funniest thing to see. Any Cat I have (3) questions for you in which (2) are his and (1) is mine. Here we go:

First question: If uses "come to me oil" on his significant other's underwear does it matter if her under garments are clean or dirty? Which would work better? He also has her earrings and he has the sheets where they last had sex (which was 3 weeks ago).

Second Question: What happens if he puts "come to me" oil and then touches her car door knob and is able to place this oil in her shampoo & conditioner but then that same day she goes out and touches someone else or is bumped or someone elses uses her shampoo will this affect the other person as well. She does not currently live with him (they are separated). He is able to see her every week because the custody of the children.

Third question: Which is obvious will my question...If I decide to use my menstrual blood on my significant other am I able to use it with these oils?

Thank you Cat~

QematetSau · Unread post by **QematetSau** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:45 pm

It may not necessarily be that you can't do magic. It could be that your emotional distress is blocking your magic or that you need to work on developing the skill of manifestation...wh/ involves taking care of our emotional issues. Now, I'm not saying you have issues or this or that. I'm just saying from experience that being emotionally stressed does block magic, esp. if you're highly attached to the outcome.

I'd suggest doing cleansing work first and foremost. You can get cheap ingredients like Nettle for uncrossing. Also, if you feel up to it get some Holy Water from your local Catholic church. Use on your bath for blessings or on your person. Use it every day! The intention is on ridding yourself from all the emotional debris around you and bring peace and blessings. I'd stop my magic rituals until I feel more peaceful. This way I know I won't damage my work with my emotional baggage.

Meanwhile, try to go about work without thinking of the promotion or this other girl. Just concentrate on getting paid. Then, once you have enough funds get a reading to find out the best way to receive a promotion or if it's even worth your effort...you may be better off with another job. You can shoot for something much better if that's the case.

This comes from someone who has had an injury for almost a year with almost no help from a hellish family and no job. So, I know how stressful life can get.

Best of luck to you.

theusurper · Unread post by **theusurper** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 4:13 pm

I want to know it is true that a compelling or commanding spell can back fire in the person who made it. I'm worry about that because i think that is happening to me. Please give me some advice.

SweetLady · Unread post by **SweetLady** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 4:54 pm

some people hold that if you believe a spell can/will backfire, then it can/will.

Others think that a "backfire" is a myth of magic, usually held by "newbies".

Personally, I think that some spells can backfire if they are overly malicious in intent. again, this is my personal belief.

If one is outright lacking in magical knowledge, well...I guess one might experience a magical backfire.

Also, this question has been asked on the forum many times before. If you search the forums, you should get several hits...they should help answer your question.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:12 pm

I have read the response to questions such as yours for sometime now theusurper...here is an appropriate response found on Lucky Mojo's Spell Archives

http://www.luckymojo.com/spells/real.html#10
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IF I CAST SPELLS INCORRECTLY WILL THEY "BACKFIRE" ON ME? by catherine yronwode

The idea that spells can "backfire" seems really to be two ideas under the same name.

1) The spell you cast will cause the opposite result than the one you hoped for (the person you want to have love you will hate you; instead of the job promotion you hoped to get, you will be fired from the job)

2) The spell you cast will somehow turn into a sort of tar baby that will ensnare and entrap you in its clutches (instead of the person you want loving you more, you will love them more; instead of the job promotion you hoped to get, you will be forced to cast spells over and over to stop people on the job from envying your success)

In the first group we find backfiring spells that are said to be the result of casting spells "the wrong way" or with "the wrong words" or with "bad intentions." In the second group we find certain spells deemed to be ipso facto tar-babies and "dangerous" to the practitioner.

Both of these forms of bckfiring are dramatic and fictional in their origins. Like the related concept of "spell overload" mentioned above, they are crippling to the practitioner, and may even have been designed by their creators to function in that way, as warnings about the "dangers" of practicing powerful folk magic ouside the confines of sanctioned churchly miracles and blessings.

At the Lucky Mojo Forum, people ask me about "backfiring" all the time, and offer their opinions about it to other posters as well. Here are some quotes from the Forum, gathered during 2009 and 2010:

Too much work on a target, especially working on the mind, can backfire on you.
If you do mind reading spells wrong or for malicious reasons then they can backfire.
Bragging about magical successes can cause jealousy, strife, and definitely backfire.
Too often people get really forceful and that can backfire.
The target putting the oil on himself could backfire.
Intranquility spells can backfire on you, so be warned.
Spells for intranquility and separation can backfire.
It is not something to be taken on lightly and can definitely backfire.
Do you think that would work or could that backfire?
If you do not do the bath PERFECT IN EVERY WAY does that mean it can backfire on you in a negative way?
If I decide to hotfoot him, might it not backfire?
I'm afraid it would backfire.
I just don't want to put in the wrong wordings and backfire instead!
I don't want to try and kiss him and have it backfire.
I don't want to do anything that would be risky or could backfire in any way!
I don't want the spell to backfire.

Do you see how self-defeating, self-scaring, and pointlessly dramatic those ideas are?

They are obvously the scripts of people who were raised to fear and avoid magic.

...and I (jwmcclin) strongly support this response....

If you feel that your work will backfire, magic is not something to which you are habituated or for which you are gifted. Go do something else, something in which you have hopeful and cheerful confidence. PLEASE.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:50 pm

Thank you, jwmclin.

Unread post by **MissMichaele** » Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:41 am

Controlling love spells can "backfire" -- that is, bring your love back and make you regret it -- if the work is too harsh or if the lover is a jerk. That doesn't mean the spell itself is booby-trapped.

Hope this helps,

Miss Michaele

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:11 am

If you are worried about any spell backfiring then do not do it. It is just that simple.

luckyboy · Unread post by **luckyboy** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:37 am

quick question,

if I am casting a love spell on a man but also a spell for his success, could they counteract each other or would they work together for their own purposes?

meaning could casting a success spell on him make him successful and less interested in love or vice versa?

might sound like a stupid question but I am honestly curious and that's why I come to the forum, to ask.

thanks guys

Victoria03 · Unread post by **Victoria03** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:03 am

If I were to lay Love Me powder down in his foot path, or send him an anonymous letter dressed in sachet powder, is it possible that the love me powder could cause him to fall in love with another person?

Or would the powder only work for me?

I am wondering that if by staying anonymous, I am in danger of having the powder or oils "backfire" and cause him to feel affection for someone else.

Thank You!
V03

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:40 am

luckyboy, the answer is no. Professional rootworkers cast many spells at the same time for different cases and report no "counteracting" of one spell by another.

Victoria03, your question was posted in the section of the forum on Sachet Powders, but was moved here because is a common newbie question that has been also asked about candles, oils, incense, bath crystals, and even prayers.

First, please read the posts ahead of yours, where we have replied to this question before -- and then consider that what your question implies is a false premise -- that the spiritual supplies are like automatic mechanisms -- say, firecrackers, for instance -- that, once trip-switched, ignited, or set into motion, will produce a specific result without any regard to your prayers, your intentions, your supportive work in the social realm, or your connection to Spirit.

The premise that spells are like firecrackers is not grounded in any truly traditional practice of magic, although it forms the basis of a great deal of horror and humour fiction about magic in which spells "backfire" with terrifying or funny results.

Authentic, traditional, and folkloric spiritual and magical practices are grounded in prayer, alliances with Spirits, and the exercise of will. What you describe is a fake sort of magic in which neither prayer nor will have any meaningful role -- only the lighting of the firecracker has meaning.

Folk magical spells are not fiction, and it is not realistic to study folk magic as if it were a form of fiction.

Another place to read more on the topic is on this web page i wrote:

IF I CAST SPELLS INCORRECTLY WILL THEY "BACKFIRE" ON ME? by catherine yronwode
http://www.luckymojo.com/spells/real.html#10

Good luck!

Unread post by **Turnsteel** » Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:01 pm

I am of course not Miss cat but I can answer your questions.

1. You want to work with someones unwashed clothes as a personal concern.

2. Putting it where she must touch it and into her shampoo and conditioner is a great way to lay a trick with the oil, ideally it will bring her back to him, but that depends on the situation between them and his ability to do the work. I should mention that only a few drops in the shampoo and conditioner would be wise, too much and she may notice a different smell. As to what happens when she comes into contact with others after being fixed? Nothing provided the man prays his intent properly.

3. Menstrual blood is generally put into people food, Come to me oil is not food safe, so hopefully you didn't think of mixing them both into some poor guys food.

Can you feed him your stuff and lay tricks and burn candles with Come to Me? Sure.

Numari · Unread post by **Numari** » Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:56 pm

I am a ceremonial magician of many years now. Recently I wanted to start casting some spells to broaden my skill set, but I read somewhere that my daily practice of the Lesser Banishing Ritual of The Hexagram will basically neutralize any spells that I may do. Need your advice because I am planning to do the ESAU spell this weekend.

Numari

Unread post by **MissMichaele** » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:42 pm

Nessa wrote:He is able to see her every week because the custody of the children.

One of the easiest ways to fix somebody is to dress their pet's fur with the appropriate oil -- just a little on your hands and pet the dog or cat thoroughly.

Your friend can do something similar with the children -- not pet them down, but give them dressed gifts and clothing. He can also make sure he anoints himself, especially his hands, with things like Reconciliation and Peaceful Home when he goes to visit. So he can spend some time playing with the children AND THEIR TOYS. Maybe even help them clean their room and make their beds. He can certainly say a silent prayer as he smooths the bedsheets with his anointed hands.

The children's grooming products can also be spiked with a drop or two of oils -- Peaceful Home, Blessing, and maybe Five-Finger Grass; not only for success, but to induce his children to have a favorable opinion of him.

If he's also on good terms with other members of his girlfriends' family, he can give them similar treatment.

Hope this helps,

Miss Michaele

YouTube · Unread post by **Miss Bri** » Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:28 pm

I work with the Lesser Banishing regularly and I am also a professional worker-I do not have issues like what you are describing above so you should be fine, but there is only one way to find out

Blessings,
Bri

Numari · Unread post by **Numari** » Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:49 pm

Miss Bri wrote:I work with the Lesser Banishing regularly and I am also a professional worker-I do not have issues like what you are describing above so you should be fine, but there is only one way to find out
Blessings,
Bri

Thank U for the quick response........But does this weaken the effect of the spell or no ?

Unread post by **Dr Johannes** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:04 am

"I usually use soap. Now I started to collect stamps. Will my soap destroy the stamps or will it not?"

A collector of stamps would generally assume the stamps would be destroyed and answer "yes" to your question. An expert in soap would probably say "no" - based on their respective area of expertise and attached assumptions.

Soap could wash away dirt and pretty colours alike.

You do not mention how you use soap, where you use your soap - you only ask if soap and stamps are a bad thing to combine by you. - then only YOU can find out if it weakens your spells or not, as Miss Bri said.

Unread post by **Dr Johannes** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:25 am

Nessa wrote:Hello Cat;

First question: If uses "come to me oil" on his significant other's underwear does it matter if her under garments are clean or dirty? Which would work better? He also has her earrings and he has the sheets where they last had sex (which was 3 weeks ago).

Second Question: What happens if he puts "come to me" oil and then touches her car door knob and is able to place this oil in her shampoo & conditioner but then that same day she goes out and touches someone else or is bumped or someone elses uses her shampoo will this affect the other person as well. She does not currently live with him (they are separated). He is able to see her every week because the custody of the children.

Third question: Which is obvious will my question...If I decide to use my menstrual blood on my significant other am I able to use it with these oils?

Thank you Cat~

Well, I am not Miss cat either, but it seems you simply lack the basic ideas of folk magic. With it you will be able to answer thousands of the questions like yours rather than just get these questions answered. Start with the ideas behind personal concerns and look at all the things that defines a target; inner and outer physical body, name etc. Then look at the concept of sympaty on a larger scale. Its connections to nature, to procedures and so on. Finally enroll yourself and your man in the course offered by Lucky Mojo and you are both off to a future of successful magic.

ariela · Unread post by **ariela** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:54 pm

I am curious as to how to handle things like crossing,hot foot powder or goofer dust in terms of.....I live in a very dense urban environment and I wanted to use hot foot to get certain undesirable crowds or troublemakers to leave places I perform in. Occasionally we get someone or a group of people who are a bad presence we want to get rid of. Also, they often crowd the streets late at night. So, I had the idea to carry hotfoot powder or oil with me and maybe, of course it's tricky cause it's right out in the open, dust or apply some to the back of their chair or on the floor near where their feet are, to get them to leave, even leave the neighborhood. The thing is, a part of me is paranoid that if I'm carrying really negative ingredients around in places I work and socialize in, am I attracting bad stuff to myself or "hotfooting" myself by accident like if the stuff spills in my bag or gets on my by accident? I used to carry black arts oil around and one time it broke in my bag, so I guess that's where it comes from. Also, another time, I used hot foot powder somewhere but then had a really bad experience right after....as I had the stuff with me, even though I used protection oil. Should I cleanse myself best I can after I use the stuff on someone? If I carry around these negative oils will I be "safe" ? maybe it sounds silly but this is the one thing that was holding me back from doing more enemy work. I realize though I'm going to need to do a lot in the future, so I want to make sure I'm protected.

Also, say there's a crowd of people on the street or restaurant I want to hotfoot, for example, how and when should I say the prayers? I'll have to ....I had the idea to pretend to drop something and drop the powders subtly or put them in a napkin, something like that. Should I pray whom I'm intending to hotfoot as I'm doing this? They will see me moving my lips......or before? I thought maybe stand in a corner somewhere, or the bathroom, state my intention to the powders/oils then apply them? I guess I'd appreciate some clarity cause I don't have much experience with this. thanks again

Thank you Ancestors Dan, Theresa, Donna, Danny, Marie, Henry, Andrew, John, Carl, Alta.....bless
Thank you St. Expedite, St. Jude, St. Anthony and St. Dymphna

thanks!

Unread post by **Mary Bee** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:15 pm

In this situation, I would recommend using Protection or Fiery Wall of Protection supplies to keep bad people away, rather than continually exposing yourself to Hot Foot or Crossing. If you're a performer, you could wear an amulet that's dressed with Fiery Wall of Protection oil, and dust your instrument (if you play one) lightly with the sachet powder. People who are dangerous or mean you harm will be kept away. You can recite Psalm 91 as you dress yourself and your property before each performance.

If you use Hot Foot or Crossing on anyone, you must cleanse yourself after each use. A bath in Hyssop tea while reciting Psalm 51 is the most common way to cleanse yourself.

Good luck,
Mary Bee

Unread post by **Dr Johannes** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:15 pm

Learn how to protect yourself. Some prefer to dress themselves with Blessing Products before they handle the nasty stuff. Yes, you should always cleanse after having used nasty things.
Pray over the hot foot powder before you go sprinkling it. If you can not word your prayer or request, you might be resisting this subconsiously even if the thought sounds good to you. When you are ready the prayer will come by itself and there will be no hesitation.

Numari · Unread post by **Numari** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:49 pm

Dr Johannes wrote:"I usually use soap. Now I started to collect stamps. Will my soap destroy the stamps or will it not?"

A collector of stamps would generally assume the stamps would be destroyed and answer "yes" to your question. An expert in soap would probably say "no" - based on their respective area of expertise and attached assumptions.

Soap could wash away dirt and pretty colours alike.

You do not mention how you use soap, where you use your soap - you only ask if soap and stamps are a bad thing to combine by you. - then only YOU can find out if it weakens your spells or not, as Miss Bri said.

Thank U. I think ? I wasn't looking for a round about answer. What I wanted to know from a witch or a ceremonial magician is wether they have noticed any weaken or lack of results in spellworking when two magickal systems are combined/crossed.If I wasn't being clear I apologize.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:18 am

You know, if you want to learn from a witch or a ceremonial magician, you ought to ask a witch or a ceremonial magician -- but there are not too many of them here (a few, but not too many). This forum is for customers and friends of the Lucky Mojo Curio Company, a manufacturer of conjure supplies in the down-home or domestic African American and Southern folk magic tradition.

Numari · Unread post by **Numari** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:39 pm

catherineyronwode,

Thank U very much for the clarification I came here from Devi Springs's website. Thank u for the message.

Shany · Unread post by **Shany** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:52 pm

My relationship with my boyfriend is getting boring... The perfect words to describe it is we are now like an old marriage couple though both of us are at our 20's. We care for each other deeply and we would do anything to help one another. We still share jokes and laugh and go out together BUT our sex life is at the edge. He is no longer attracted to me. He got too comfortable with me since we moved in together and we both see each other naked all the time (nonsexual way, like changing clothes or something). We now barely have sex once every 2 weeks. Last night he confessed with me that he hasn't been feeling much attraction toward me anymore and it made him sexually frustrated because he was horny all the time. Because he doesn't want to cheat on me he gave me the warning that he thought about other women a lot though when I started to cry he held me and apologized and promised he would never do anything because he wouldn't bare hurting me.This scares me... What should I do to renew his attraction, lust and passion toward me all over again?

lspcmplex · Unread post by **lspcmplex** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:04 am

You should look into "Fire of Love" which really brings the passion back into a relationship! -- "used in love spells designed to bring about a proposal of Fire of Love, to bless and sanctify a new marriage, and to keep happiness and passion in a long-standing Fire of Love. These spiritual supplies are usually used when a person wishes to foster and aid the romantic and loving aspects of a long-term relationship."

You can find more information and the products here:
http://www.luckymojo.com/fireoflove.html

Another thing you might want to look into is a honey jar. It's great for keeping a relationship sweet!
http://www.luckymojo.com/honeyjar.html
http://www.luckymojo.com/mojocatspells.html#honeyjar

Unread post by **Dr_E_** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:31 am

Another thing you can do is wash your sheets with a Southern John Root in a muslin bag. This will help fire up the passion in your relationship as well. Couple that with conscious application of loving touch and you should be able to rekindle the passion. Don't forget that you can also ask him what his fantasies are and work together to build up that intimacy and vulnerability so that you can explore your fantasies together. Best of luck and God Bless!

Shany · Unread post by **Shany** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:25 pm

Thank you for your advice. I actually bought come to me boy and kiss me now oils last night, do you think the two products would help my situation faster if I wear them when around him?

Shany · Unread post by **Shany** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:38 pm

Also I am considering putting some of my sexual fluid in his food and my menstrual blood when I have it (I cook for him every night) in hope it would attract him toward me. Do you think it would work for my situation? Note that last night he said he still felt a little bit attraction toward me though (not a lot) so I am unsure if putting my stuff in his food would make it stronger? Thank you.

Wild at Heart · Unread post by **Wild at Heart** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:02 pm

Did you mean Follow Me Boy? Also, yes menstrual blood in that application will help you- but you need to add it with the intent to kindle lust and romance towards you. Also, it's best to add it to food or drinks in which it would blend in; red pasta, dark drinks.

Shany · Unread post by **Shany** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:05 pm

Yes I mean Follow me boy. Thank you for the advice.

Shany · Unread post by **Shany** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:28 pm

I have been reading a lot of posts in the forums and many said some love spells and love/lust products would actually backfire at them. For example, I really want to try and add my sexual fluid in my boyfriend's food but I read that there were cases when the couples would break after the women performed this spell. That really scares me because I don't want to lose him. Also, I wonder if a man is stubborn enough to block a spell would make the spell backfire at you? For example, if a spell is to make him lust for you and sleep with you but he himself doesn't want to fall so deep with you (my boyfriend has fear of falling in love because of his painful past with his ex)? Even if the spell successes and he could feel the love and lust, he would push me away because of fear. If it happens, what should I do to soften him up and make him accept his feeling?

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:31 pm

No the work doesn't "backfire"; it either works or it doesn't. Many people resist domination, but other tactics work better, such as subtle influence and sweetening. Do a honey jar and try Follow Me Boy and Bewitching products. Stop overthinking about what can do wrong and start working toward your goal of a relationship.

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:35 pm

In the future, please keep all posts about the same topic in one thread.

hapinys · Unread post by **hapinys** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:56 pm

Nice thread.

MmeOpproah · Unread post by **MmeOpproah** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:02 am

I tried to hot foot my ex.

I looked for the signs:

At 3 days he contacted my daughter with an "i'll always be here" message.

At 3 weeks my daughter told him she hated him & wanted him to go away forever & she tried to call me to get her but he said "that's not going to happen" and stopped her coming to me when I went.

We're at about 6 weeks now & my house is falling apart around my ears - we have no heating, no water, the electrics are dodgy to say the least, 3 appliances have broken this week, I'm miserable here & want to leave & have been looking into how & where to move to... It just occurred to me I may have hot footed myself instead! Doh!

Help!!!

theusurper · Unread post by **theusurper** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:18 am

Did you clean yourself and your house after you hot foot him?

MmeOpproah · Unread post by **MmeOpproah** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:24 am

I thought I did... maybe I didn't do it well enough!

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:54 am

If you used the HotFoot Kit (and I cannot say enough to recommend kits when using this type of spell) it includes protection. Follow thorough here and possibly get a reading to see what is going on...

MmeOpproah · Unread post by **MmeOpproah** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:05 pm

Is there anything I can do to stop it now?

Forest_Roots · Unread post by **Forest_Roots** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:57 am

What did you do to cleanse? and how long did you wait

Make a bath of hyssop and prayers (be sure to let the hyssop work its way into the water and cleanse yourself then make a hyssop wash and sweep your house ( from back to front and take the dirt off your property to a cross roads leave and offering to the cross roads spirits to get rid of the energy like a few pennies) then mop your floor wash your walls with the hyssop wash while stating you petition then do a firey wall of protection for you and your family

Unread post by **Madame Pamita** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:26 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't know that you can actually "hotfoot yourself" - if the intention was for someone else, then it would have gone toward him.

However, as jwmcclin said, it is essential to release and cleanse after. You need to remove the onus of doing this kind of work. It's really not for playing around. That's why it's good to get the kit and not just the product - you've got clear directions and all the ingredients necessary to release your culpability.

Another thought - Could he have done a reversal on you? It would be good to get a reading to check in on this (or any other) possibility.

Forest_Roots · Unread post by **Forest_Roots** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:36 pm

You can indeed hotfoot yourself. I've done it myself when first learning hotfoot magic. It's very unpleasant. We use the spell ingredients we use because they contain power in and of themselves. Which is why it is dangerous they are like a gun we have to handle it right or we might accidently shoot ourselves.

I follow the:

cleanse > protect > curse > cleanse > protect

lay out for safety. If it were simply our intention and not the spell curio, we could throw glitter and have the same effect. While it is possible that he could do a reversal it is not likely as she did not mention he practices magic in her original post.

Unread post by **Madame Pamita** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:01 pm

Hi Josh -

Both viewpoints are valid - I'm of the school of thought that foot track magic only hits the intended. (see: http://www.luckymojo.com/foottrack.html - "Such patterns may be activated by spitting in them as you curse the one for whom they are laid. If innocent people walk over the mark, some folks will tell you that they should remain unaffected because "it wasn't put down for them") - I'm very focused in my work and only send it to the intended person and that has worked for me for 20 years! But you're right, the cleansing is necessary because you have done something that carries negativity.

Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:35 pm

hot-foot-spell-kit-question-and-answers-t5101.html

I disagree. This would mean if you were making Hot Foot Powder then you would invariably be hot-footed.

Josh, I have made this product while at Miss cat's apprenticeship, and i did not Hot Foot myself. This is because the powder is a tool. Only when you use the tool do you call your intention into it.

However, if the target reverses the spell on you and you are not protected, or if the work you attempt is not justified and you do not cleanse yourself, you may be affected.