Spells for Better Communication Between Lovers Spouses Mates Friends

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:07 pm

I would do a friday because this is about him admiting his feelings for you. But you can definitely do it on a Wednesday as well.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:44 am

Love the book box idea. Putting love tricks inside a book of sonnets, or love poems sounds pleasing to me.

Cherry4 · Unread post by **Cherry4** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:43 pm

Hello.
I've posted on this forum once before recently. I'm working on my situations as best as I can. But I'm gnna focus on one on this post.

Quick background:
I've been with a guy for over a yr. Things started great very close. Gt the I luv u. Talks abt moving in. Met ea others kids. We met almost immediately after he split up from his ex. We went through a small period of his confussion and wondering if he did the right thing for himself by leaving. We split up but he decided w me is where he wanted to b. But lately he is not as affectionate talkative or attentive to me as he used to be. I love this man and his children very much. I know the ex has neg influence on him and sometimes I thnk on me. I do hav insecurities abt us. He's been very distant from me the last wk and a half. Wat to do?!

My desires:
1. To hav the attention at the level I used to get it back(or close to it).
2. A commitment from him. Moving in (very soon) and soon marriage.
3. His interest in me only. To stay away from ex (ex going inside her house to wait for kids. Etc)
4. Maybe even help her find someone for herself so she can also b happy (and quit stalking us)

I know this may seem alot. But I don't know wat to try or start with. I looked over the website and there r so many products and spells I dnt know which one to use that will b most effective. Could someone(s) pls guide me.

Any help REALLY appreciated!!

Unread post by **Mary Bee** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:50 am

Hi Cherry:

Let's tackle your desires in order:

1. To have the attention of your man: First, feed him your menstrual fluid in his coffee or food; just a drop or two will do nicely. If you no longer menstruate, use a drop or two of your urine or vaginal fluids. For getting his attention in general, look at LM's Look Me Over, Fire of Love or Follow Me Boy line of products.

2. A committment leading to marriage. Have you started a honey jar on him? That will "sweeten him up" to the idea of commitment and marriage; the store sells a complete honey jar kit for love/marriage type situations. It comes with a jar of honey, a candle, a little vial of oil, and herbs with instructions. When I advise clients on making honey jars for love, I also advise them to put a hair from their lover and one of their hairs in the jar together, to sweeten their love up. Here's the link to the page on honey jars; check out the one for Stay With Me or Romance:

http://www.luckymojo.com/mojocatspells.html#honeyjar

OIL-HOO-MARR
Marriage Oil
$10.00

You can use Marriage Oil to dress the candles on the honey jar.

3. Interest in me only: Well, using the menstrual fluid tricks and the Stay With Me/Love Me line of products to fix your love for him will work on that. But if your man and his ex have kids together, there will always be a link. A man who is decent to the mother of his children is generally decent to all women. Just my opinion

4. Having her find someone for herself: Now for that there is the moving candle spell to move off an ex and have her find happiness in a new relationship. For that, you may need the help of a rootworker to explain how to perform the work or to do it for you. Check out Association of Independent Readers and Rootworkers for a list of great rootworkers:
http://www.readersandrootworkers.org
Many of them will offer 10 minute readings for $10, and you can get a consultation.

Good luck,
Mary Bee

YouTube · Unread post by **Miss Bri** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:28 am

You need a nation sack for this fellow!
Read about them here:
http://www.luckymojo.com/nationsack.html
Blessings,
Bri

Cherry4 · Unread post by **Cherry4** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:13 pm

Thnk u both for ur responses.

I am very strapped for $ right now. Can the honey jar b made from things I can get here at home? At least til I gt thngs going? I dnt hav hair or anythng from him he doesn't hav alot. Shaves alot off and is real short. I hav a toothbrush and some clothing. Will Any of this work? I nd help immediately bc the situation is getting worse. He is spending time w the ex and has no real good excuse why. He says he still wants me and doesn't want to let me go. But I can't put up w him over there. Pls Any prompt responses for me would be appreciated. I'm working on gettig a reading for further help. But that also needs funds. Just tell me exactly wat to do and if I'm capable I will do it.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:54 pm

If he shaves you can get the hair directly from the razor or you can check the bathroom sink. Hair really isn't as hard to get as people make it out to be.

I am sorry you are low on funds, but this is the Lucky Mojo *product* forum, not a general hoodoo forum so we can't advise what to do from home. You are welcome to read through the giant honey jar thread and take what you can.

However if you look at the honey jar kits or the other products available, you'll find that you can easily set aside the money for it.

Unread post by **MissMichaele** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:50 pm

Deer's Tongue and Crucible of Courage sound like a great combo. Put some King Solomon Wisdom in there, too. Good luck!

Miss Michaele

Cherry4 · Unread post by **Cherry4** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:40 am

Thnks for the imput on thngs. I thnk I'm ready to do wat I need now. However I dnt know if that has changed. I've emailed to get a reading a week ago and hav gttn no response for an appt time. I really feel I need this. I started a vinegar jar for the target and the ex. He has been spending more time over there and hasn't been communicating with me much. He does still speak w me but only if I make the effort. He claims he unsure of what is really going on in his life right now but is sure he's not going back to her. He claims to be looking for his place and he feels there is things between us we really need to work out and discuss. I was lookn to get the stay w me kit with follow me boy oils. But could really use some follow up advise. Pls!!

Any help always appreciated. Oh and think we might b expecting.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:38 pm

Well, as regard to your readers, each keep different schedules and will get back to you at different times. If you've waited a week or more, you should try contacting that person again to set up an appointment. Also remember to read their profiles to know what their best method of communication is. Some prefer email to set up appoinments and some prefer that you call. Secondly, remember that many require you to actually pay for the appointment before you can set it up.

Your reading will help you decide what's the best course of action, but if you and him aren't together then you'd want to think about the Reconciliation kit, or working with Return to Me products.

Cherry4 · Unread post by **Cherry4** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:27 pm

Thank u conjureman. I've been trying to see wat I can do. U r actually one of the workers I've tried to contact. I know u may be busy but reading ur profile u were one of my top choices for readers. No offense to anyone else. There was just an immediate comfortablness there. If u are avail please let mr know since I hav the funds avail now to work with I would hate to gt a reding twice close together. The plan for today was to book the appt

moongoddess · Unread post by **moongoddess** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:21 am

I want to know what oil, would be best for my situation, i want my boyfriend to pay more attention to me? be more affectionate, like kisses, cuddles, make love to me more, and pay less attention to other girls, like make me his main focus?

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:28 am

Look Me Over (http://www.luckymojo.com/lookmeover.html) will get you visual admiration and increased desirability; Love Me (http://www.luckymojo.com/loveme.html) will draw your target closer with increased displays of love and Fire of Love (http://www.luckymojo.com/fireoflove.html) will increase happiness and passion in a long term relationship, if that's what you want.

moongoddess · Unread post by **moongoddess** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:39 am

So I just wear these like perfume and he be all over me like a rash? I am sorry i am new to all of this lol.

jenelle21 · Unread post by **jenelle21** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:38 am

I have had wonderful experiences with Love me oils and Love Me ritual candles. It helps to bring out my boyfriends loving, romantic, and nurturing side. Lots of freely and openly expressed affection for me and only me =)
I would recommend these products to anyone in a commited relationship, looking for a Love nudge ! i hope this helps you

moongoddess · Unread post by **moongoddess** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:07 pm

Thanks, do you wear the oils like a perfume? I am new to all of this, and he needs a kick up the back side lol.

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:57 pm

There are many ways to use oils. You can wear them on your body, dress candles with them, use them in your bath, add a few drops with laundry detergent, add them to lotion, etc.

jenelle21 · Unread post by **jenelle21** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:07 pm

Lol, I'm sure he is a great guy, he probably just needs that extra spiritual encouragement. Just a slight pull on his heart strings to remind him how much he loves you and hopefully this will spark within him and he will want to share it with you.
I do wear the LM Love me oil as a perfume, and a little does go a long way. I make sure to pray over the oil and state my thanks and intentions before hand, and each time. I find the oil really work best in combination with the LM Love me Ritual candle, I place a very detailed petition beneath the candle and it never fails to deliver the Love!
you may also want to read the passages on deploying tricks, it gets the creativity flowing for your work, and describes in detail the many ways to help your oils work for you.
good luck moongoddess
hope to hear great things soon !

moongoddess · Unread post by **moongoddess** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:14 pm

can you wear more than one oil at a time? as I was thinking of buying the love me oil along with the look me over and fire ?

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:26 pm

Yes you can use more than one oil; just make sure that their purposes don't conflict.

moongoddess · Unread post by **moongoddess** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:27 am

ok so you just wear them? you dont have to say anything ? as I definitely want to try these oils!

Unread post by **Miss Ida Lundin** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:42 am

You need to pray, or say what you want the oils to do when you are using them.
As Mama Micki said you can use oils in many different ways and one of them is to wear the oil as perfume. When you apply it on your body, that is when you say what you want to accomplish.

If you want to read more about how to use oils, you can read this link:
http://www.luckymojo.com/oils.html

moongoddess · Unread post by **moongoddess** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:51 pm

Thank you svarthyndan, I get ya now!

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:14 pm

You can also try Follow Me Boy.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:00 pm

moongoddess, take some time and read How to use Conjure oils, Hoodoo oils, Ritual oils,
Dressing oils, and Anointing oils (http://www.luckymojo.com/oils.html)

This page has information about
"Historical Background of Hoodoo oils"
"Terminology Dressing oil, Anointing oil, and Condition oil."
"How to use Anointing and Dressing oils"
"Selecting and Blending Ritual oils for your needs"
...and "the Authenticity of hoodoo oils"

Cherry4 · Unread post by **Cherry4** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:40 pm

ok, well i finally had my reading, and was impressed, felt good about some of the info that was given to me, and feel hopeful. I was told to use nurturing work for my situation and items of return to me and love (honey jars etc.) I'm waiting for a response from my reader from the follow up questions i sent but still havent received a response. Should i wait til i hear something back or go ahead and order from LM. I dont know which product will be more effective and if i should only do a honey jar or if i should be doing a spell kit. (and of which one..love or return. or one within that family). it is also said my guy needs work of clarity and healing. But for this i really want to hire the rootworker. I dont want to confuse my man by not performing this properly. The idea is to clear and heal him. I would rather someone who knows how to do this do it. Has anyone had success in doing this themselves?

If anyone could make good suggestions, i'm all ears...i really want to wait for my reader, but speaking to LM, its taking a couple of weeks to even receive items purchased, so i would like to order soon. Also if i can get the rootworker to start on the clarity/healing part, i would feel my work will be more effective.

Anything from anyone? thanx

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:34 pm

First off Cherry4, you need to take a deep breath and try to calm down. I do not wish to come off as cold or uncaring, but asking for "anything from anyone" in regards to help with your situation sounds like a recipe for trouble!

You had your reading and have some responses coming soon. That's great! I would wait to hear back and do exactly what your reader/worker "prescribes" for you. We have had success doing this work ourselves, but the professional workers have years of experience and dedicated time spent on their work. These are the people you want in your corner, working for you.

I think it would be fine to go ahead and order the items suggested (the Return To Me items and the honey jar spell kit)... These seem like appropriate works to undertake for yourself.

Hiring a worker means putting your problem in their capable hands...and they will know best after talking with you and hearing your story. We only have a small part of what is happening and could be of some assistance, however I still say you should try to be calm and collected and wait for those further instructions from the worker you have hired to help you!

I hope this helped some and do hope that you get the solutions you need!

Good luck to you!

-Joseph Magnuson

Cherry4 · Unread post by **Cherry4** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:01 pm

Joseph. Thnk you. I'm sorry but I didn't mean I would take anythn from anyone per say. It was more of an invite for objective suggestions. By no means did I mean Id jump on just any suggestion. I'm not panicky right now. Just wanted to see wat to go ahead and order. So thnk you for the suggestion to go ahead and order those products. I feel confident in my reader. So I am happy to wait for the suggestions and guidence. I am very grateful to you who are experienced and willing to help in all our situations. You are very appreciated with your gifts.

ladydawn · Unread post by **ladydawn** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:07 pm

I'm working a honey jar for a specific target and thinking of burning pink candles with king solomon oil and chuparrosa oil on it for us to see what we want and be honest with each other. does this sound like a good combination?

Unread post by **Mary Bee** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:51 am

Hi ladydawn:

Clarity oil may also be a good choice.

Mary Bee

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:09 pm

I like your instinct for Chuparrosa here, combined with the Clarity. You could consider adding a bit of Mercury oil to facilitate open communication as well.

sakura · Unread post by **sakura** » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:11 am

I have a problem with my ever-intractable boyfriend. . . . The large scope is that he doesn't feel passionate about anything, including me, though he says he does love me. He is a very angry person, especially at God, whom he simultaneously claims not to believe in (while also simultaneously saying he wants to believe in God). He also says he doesn't want to break up with me and wants to keep trying despite, as he says, not feeling head over heels for me. Now I can accept that we might not be meant to be and walk away, but from everything he says, he wants to try. So before I call it quits, I would like to try magic to try to help him a. let go of his anger b. feel positive emotions c.and get in touch with his spirituality. Is there anything I can do to help him? I've tried talking with him, but he is very pessimistic about his ability to change (but like I said, he wants to). It isn't even really about saving the relationship, since I can accept that we aren't meant for each other, but it hurts me to see him in so much psychic pain, and though I know I won't be alone forever if we do break up, I suspect he will be, and I don't want that.

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:49 am

Petition his Guardian Angel to help him find spiritual peace. You can light a Guardian Angel vigil candle or dress a white candle with Guardian Angel oil.

Unread post by **JayDee** » Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:24 pm

I would do a honey jar on him to sweeten him to you and enhance the over all love in the relationship.

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:44 am

The combination of the honey jar with the GUardian Angel petition would be a very powerful one.

You can find honey jar kits here:
http://www.luckymojo.com/mojocatspells.html#honeyjar

Guardian Angel products here:
http://www.luckymojo.com/mojocatoils.html#catholic
http://www.luckymojo.com/mojocatcandles.html#catholic

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:21 am

Lovely suggestions all. I would also make a healing doll baby for him and do a series of cooling washes with Tranquility bath crystals, King Solomon's Wisdom, Cast off Evil and Clarity, all aimed at cooling his rage and clearing his mind.

Alongside this, I'd starting bathing in Fires of Love to rekindle the passion, or tea made from Catnip to make him bewitched by you once more in addition to honey jar work. Also feed him some sexual fluids.

LittleJ · Unread post by **LittleJ** » Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:08 am

Hello,
I have a guy in my life that I think is interrested in me as more than a friend but getting him to open up is impossible. He has been apart of my life for almost a year and even though he has walked out of my life he has always returned. I would like to do something to help him come forward to me with what he really wants from me and how he really feels about me. Please let me know what I can do, Thanks!

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:35 am

1. I would go for a reading. The reading would answer if this is worth pursuing, and how he feels about you.
www.readersandrootworkers.com

Make sure you ask your rootworker to give you some concrete recommendations for you to do.

2. I would do a white skull candle with some clarity products so that he can get clear on his feelings about you along with deer's tongue with some compelling and crucible of courage oil to get him to speak on how he actually feels about you.

www.luckymojo.com/compelling.html
www.luckymojo.com/products-clarity.html
www.luckymojo.com/products-crucible-of-courage.html

3. Be ready to hear the truth. He could absolutely gain some clarity that he wants nothing to do with you, or he may explain how is confused about or like you.

LittleJ · Unread post by **LittleJ** » Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:49 am

Thanks! I just signed up for a reading because I was thinking the same thing. As for the other thing you recommended is that something I can do myself with no expierence or should I have someone do it for me. I want to hear the truth no matter what it may be because I am sick of the run around with him.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:19 pm

You can do the work yourself (at least start), if you feel that you cannot ask for the reader to provide a consultation or work the spell on your behalf. It purely your decision. Good Luck!

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:21 am

Actually, I would wait AFTER your reading before starting anything. Lets say you start the work and then there is not much you can do and/or he is just not worth working on.

In addition, the reading can give more insight into what you can do specifically with what you want from him.

But yes this is something you can do yourself...and you can get more instruction and consultation from your reader.

nicoleap · Unread post by **nicoleap** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:56 pm

Hello all. Long time lurker looking for info on what spell kits to buy from LM.

A little background: I've been seeing someone for about a yr and he just left me a few weeks ago.

The first five months everything was great then he began to become distant. He would tell me there were demons he was fighting and he just felt relationships never worked for anyone he knew. He said every woman he has ever been with has cheated on him, including a wife he divorced a decade ago. He swears to me there is no one else, but he just thinks he is meant to be alone.

Sadly I love him & feel we could be happy but he is afraid of "risking" it again. He says I'm the best thing to happen to him and he will regret losing me but he's afraid of committment and he's just better suited alone, and I deserve someone to give me a committment fully, unafraid. BUT I should know no one will ever care about or take care of me like he could. (?).

I went to a family friend who is a cudandera. She suggested the intranquil spirit to get him him to commit and scare him out of his issues basically.

On her advice I had the MISC burn one for me fearing I lacked the experience for it. It burned black and sooty. Not good. My report said there was stuck wax/herbs indicative of unseen obstacles....Those are his abandonment issues I'm sure. Obviously the intranquil spirit was the wrong option. Roadopener and reconciliation were recommended instead. I feel maybe some healing work would be helpful. Is there a spell kit anyone can recommend? Thank you

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:25 pm

Get a reading from a member of AIRR to see if there is hope for your relationship with this man.
www.readersandrootworker.org

He needs to let go of his past and his distrust of women. Roadopener and reconcilation may be good choices. Cut and Clear is normally used for letting go of past relationship by the person himself, but you could try putting some oil or powder on him or a doll of him. Pray Isaiah 43:18,19.

nicoleap · Unread post by **nicoleap** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:49 pm

Thank you so much. I plan on getting a reading with an AIRR reader.

I never thougjt of using a doll baby for a cut and clear. To be honest I'm giving it till winter and I am going to do a cut and clear on myself.

He's hurt me deeply with his indecisiveness. He has issues w/women but also his folks (dad was a drunk, mom codependent and neglectful) and he refuses help. Therapy would kill his drive he says. He says he needs to be selfish and love himself cause no one ever has. He blamed the breakup on me cause I wanted more, and I was hot and cold...But I only was because of him.

He said when we ended he wanted to be in my life forever at least as a friend, but his "friendliness" has only been to tell me that no one will ever do ANYTHING for me like he could, like he doesn't want me to move on, but he swears he doesn't love me because he can't believe in love anymore. Crazy, I know. So right now we're not talking.

Is there anything someone could suggest to get us speaking? Maybe that way I can get concerns for a doll baby.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:53 pm

You dont need a personal concern per se to get the baby doll started. Work with a picture for now.

I would start with a reconciliation honey jar

www.luckymojo.com/reconciliation.html

contact-me,-call-me,-reconnect-spell-qu ... t2982.html

nicoleap · Unread post by **nicoleap** » Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:35 am

Thank you both so much. I am going to get started on a honey jar. That was my next plan of attack. What curios might anyone suggest for the doll baby?

I do have one final question. I know I probably need a reading for this but I'm guessing the IS candle burning sooty and leaving wax means the spirit didn't help me? Or maybe it is but this guy is resisting a lot? My grandma was a cudandera, as is a good family friend, and I remember her calling the intranquil spirit to drag a cheating uncle back. But maybe this guy I love is so comfortable in this hell he's created in his mind that a spirit from hell is no bother

sacredspiritualguide · Unread post by **sacredspiritualguide** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:31 pm

The IS is an incredibly difficult spirit to work with. That is why there are so mny threads about this particular spell. Soot and residual wax most likely means he is resisting the work. Who wouldn't? Just when you have your mind made up about something all of a sudden these nagging doubts and recurrent thoughts begin to surface, usually followed by unpredictable surges of emotions. It is hell, and it is in our nature to resist things that hurt or cause us turmoil.

If you continue working with the IS, be cautious and be aware that the man returning to you will not be the same as before.

I would strongly reccomend doing some love drawing work and starting a honey jar asap. if nothing else, it can help steer your work in a more loving direction.

Personally, I have dated that 'broken man' and it caused me nothing but pain. Even when I received everything I thought I wanted, it turned out it wasn't what I wanted at all. In reality, I wanted a man who had the courage to commit to me on his own, and who was brave enough to love me, fully, deeply. It was extremely difficult for me to leave the relationship, but using both the black walnut spell and the cut and clear spell (multiple times), I was somehow able to move on.

Also, I have to add that the black walnut spell was so powerful that within days (less than a week) I had three guys approach me and ask me out who fit all the positives I was looking for in a mate. I still need time to heal, so I have been moving slowly forward. My point is, there are good men out there that will love you just the way you are!

snake · Unread post by **snake** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:47 pm

I am in a similar situation except that he won't admit that he's broken! All I can do is bless him and hope that he gets it together. There's still a place for him in my heart but I've had to really step back and let him go until he's well enough for a relationship.

light33 · Unread post by **light33** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:04 am

Sorry to hear that. I hope it works out

nicoleap · Unread post by **nicoleap** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:10 pm

Thanks everyone for the advice and suggestions. I have been working a honey jar so he is not angry or unreasonable when he comes back around.

I think the intranquil spirit is working. I didn't petition it just for contact, I asked for the spirit to bring him back for an actual reunion. When we first split he seemed to be having a ball, going out and drinking/partying with his friends. Or at least putting on a good show. We work together and we had a conversation the other day where it turned to us. He talked of how I'm the best thing that's ever happened to him and he's never been closer to anyone than he is to me. But again said how terrified he is of marriage and commitment. He said he's been hannging out alone, supposedly all his "party" friends have abandoned him cause he doesn't want to go out and pick up chicks like they do. He admitted to missing me like crazy and thinking of me obsessively. A friend of mine at work said she saw him out once and he looked miserable. He's usually Mr. GQ, she said he looked unhappy and slobby and he was with w/another guy who was encouraging him to talk to some girls and he refused. And it was genuine, not for show, he doesn't know this coworker knows about us due to non fraternization policies. He has been talking nonstop to another coworker about relationships/commitments all week and asked another best friend we both share about marriage/having more kids (has an 11 yr old from his marriage). He also seems tired. The IS is definetly working.

I have a white skull I'm going to use for healing work on him. I'm just worried about doing too much "mind" work. And I have a road opener candle burning. I'm going to order the cut and clear spell kit, however in case I need it to help myself soon.

devolsyawla · Unread post by **devolsyawla** » Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:28 pm

I started a honey jar on my ex for reconciliation back in june or july. But I messed up my work by being over emotional.

Recently about 3 weeks ago we had a big falling out again, after things were already strained.

I started working my honey jar 2 nites after the big fight again, but every day instead of mon , wed. and fri. Within 3 days HE texted me saying he didnt have anyone to go to lunch with and other stuff like he missed me.

Since starting to work the honey jar everyday communication has been open, but I try to give him space but I check in time to time to see if he is sweet to me and he is very sweet to me.

On the third week from doing the honey jar everyday I saw movement. He dropped our daughter off last Tuesday and asked me to come visit him. The Friday after he came to pick up my daughter, but ended up spending the day with both of us and acting very sweet. He was laughing watching my favorite show with me cuddling and everything. Then This Tuesday I went to see him and we went to lunch to the mall and had a good time, he even kissed me.

My issue is with all this movement he's still blowing hot and cold. When I first get around him he acts funny like he doesn't know what to do. Friday when we stayed the day together it took him a while to act normal. Tuesday when I got to his house instead of saying hi, He just watched me walk in then hit me with his shirt playfully. Then today he came to get our daughter he wouldn't say hi not in a mean way but in an awkward I don't know how to act way.

To me It seems like he wants it but he backs away after he shows his feelings. What else can I do to help the situation.

So far --
1. I did a reconciliation honey jar kit from lucky mojo. I put reconciliation oil follow me boy oil and love me oil on the candle

2. I had a reading done which said things looked promising

3. I did do an intranqulity candle which seemed to make him want to be closer to me more (this was back in july)

4. I pray to saint martha everyday with the honey jar going at the same time

Anyone please let me know if theres any products that can help me close the gap and give him the extra push.

mommystwin27 · Unread post by **mommystwin27** » Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:30 pm

How long have you been doing your work? I honestly think you are doing enough but maybe more skilled experts can give you opinion on that.

I find that doing love work you can't be too pushy with the work, esp. when it comes to doing it on a man, because it will backfire, they can be rather funny acting when they are being worked on

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But you don't want to do too much at one time either, give yourself enough time to see the end result, seems like you are seeing movement which is good, and St. Martha doesn't play any games, so I wouldn't despair, things iron themselves out eventually.

Also, I wont dabble into why you are dong Intranquil Spirit, but I would be extremely careful with that, it doesn't seem like your case calls for that, and IS DEFINITELY will backfire on your target and you too.

Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:36 pm

A follow up with a Member of AIRR:
http://www.readersandrootworkers.org
You have a LOT going on. A Member of AIRR will be able to assist you.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:49 pm

Excellent advice from mommystwin27 and Miss Tammie Lee, and I second the recommendations.

devolsyawla · Unread post by **devolsyawla** » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:13 pm

Thank you all so much ! I have been doing a lot. After the big blow up I really think the honey jar had a lot to do with us still talking after. I normally feel things out myself I had a reading once and It was basically confusing. She couldn't really give me specifics and all she said were things looked promising. But no details so I'm really scared that I might get the same no answers again.

Unread post by **aura** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:25 am

Hi devolsyawla,

I don't know who your reader was then, but the reason that Miss Tammie Lee (and pretty much everyone on this forum) will recommend AIRR workers are because the quality of their work, as well as recourse for you in the even of any difficulties, is verified. You know that you're getting quality when you work with them. Furthermore, AIRR workers will be able to give you magickal coaching to help you make the best spellwork decisions for your case.

Keep in mind however, quality doesn't mean that you'll hear what you want to: they'll tell you what's going on the way it is, wether good or bad. While I understand that you're afraid you may not hear what you'd like, the advice you've been given is more than sound and it's time to get a pro in there on the case with you.

Have faith in your times of trial, it will sustain you.

Blessings and best of luck.

celine_celeste · Unread post by **celine_celeste** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:40 pm

Sometimes I get mad at my boyfriend and over react and get emotional. Recently I did just that. I said a lot of hurtful things that I should not have said when I was upset with him and now he's hurt and I feel awful. I've been working a honey jar on him since the begining of our relationship. What else may I be able to do to bring us closer and mend this before there is a break up?

devolsyawla · Unread post by **devolsyawla** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:56 pm

I understand I will set up an appointment asap. I wasn't saying I'm scared of what they will say, just that I would like more solid answers not loose ends but I will try again and keep everyone posted.

mommystwin27 · Unread post by **mommystwin27** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:03 pm

Don't over think and second guess yourself I think that is a rather reversing mistake we tend to make sometimes. Him being in contact with you is a good sign so I wouldn't "push" him too much, because on an unconscious level he could be feeling the work and the wishy washiness could possibly be a response to that, an attempt to resist it.

A reading from AIRR will be an excellent way to figure out if you are in the right direction. It seems confusing only because so many emotions are involved, but if you can step back for a minute and relax, you will see everything clearly and it will all make sense. You just have to have alot of patience.

devolsyawla · Unread post by **devolsyawla** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:26 pm

Yes I must admit him going back and forth is hard for me sometimes. But I take it as the work is working and as long as it keeps moving, that's basically what I need.

And you were soooo right about the pushing thing. I talked to him today and he basically said he wants to be able to show how he cares and feels on his own, and I know how he feels. He's just emotionally unavailable right now, he says the only person he wants to be deep with right now is our daughter.

Our relationship was really heavy from the beginning. So I think now he wants to not jump into a relationship, and just have fun together. He keeps telling me to just go with the flow and leave the questions and titles alone. I feel like that's also a good sign, I too feel like we need something lighter that will lead to the ending spark then flame.

Last nite we talked for a good hour and a half, and this morning for a good 30 mins. We text during the day everyday. So in all I am grateful for the progress I've made so far. I also realized that I'm really just passing my 3 weeks mark on really sticking to my plan, and not getting in my own way. So I need to focus to my end result.

Thank you all so much for your help and support I will keep everyone posted.