Spells to Force Coerce Dominate Control Command Ex to Return

BlakPrincessUK99 · Unread post by **BlakPrincessUK99** » Sat May 03, 2014 12:19 pm

J8
Great words of wisdom. I love the idea adding bath water to his food.

TheBestest · Unread post by **TheBestest** » Sun May 04, 2014 8:09 am

j82 wrote:Ok before we throw the baby out with the bathwater lets rewind a bit. You have been working a honey jar on him for 3 weeks, a jar that is historically known for being slow to start but have strong effects. In hoodoo we watch and wait 3 days from the start of work for signs, 3 weeks for movement and 3 mo for manifestation. then you reevaluate the work and make changes accordingly. Of course a reading helps to let you know what is or is not working. I have read a 100 post on LM site of ppl looking to work love and often yes they get stuck on what they want to see, not what they want.. the goal is them to love you not call you.. there are spells for calling ! But in your mind you feel he loves you = he calls, hence why you went this route. I suggest in the future of being a little more open with your work, that allows it to follow the path of least resistance meaning it will manifest in the easiest and quickest way possible. Its normally not how we imagine it. Other jobs could work a reading would tell you that. If your worker (whom I assume is an AIRR worker) told you that then I would not do the work you suggested because as the reader said it wont work. There are many workings you can do out side of the honey jar... get something personal and make a come to me mojo, bath in Lm come to me bath and save a little and cook in food for him, put vag fluid in his food with the prayer for him to love you, use bewitching products to to add a sense of mystery to you Kiss me now to induce lust... you said you are at a loss in what to do.. what I would do is keep working the jar , burn a candle on it everyday to really get it working, shake it and call his name and the petition daily, pray over it, regardless of petition focus on him coming to you. start burning other candles around it with intent to influence the work like come to me follow me boy kiss me now , get a reading from an AIRR worker .I would go at it with multiple aspects to address the situation.. I hope that helps.

Hello, let me start by saying I apologize if I came off defensive. I reaally do appreciate your advice and lastly I apologize about my responding late. Ok, now this past week I only worked the jar Mon, Wd, and Friday, so do I start the daily this week and count this as the starting of three months? Also, here is where it gets tricky... He is actually a cop, and has an infant so I do know his schedule is funny not to mention he is a Pisces and I apologize if I offend anyone but my the capricorn with the pisces male are a goid but tricky combination. Wuth that being said, I have extreme problems seeing him, hearing from him and etc, so who knows when's the next time I can get personal concerns. I soooo appreciate all of your help and any more advice you can give me. I have had a reading done and was told this would happen but I was trying to avoid it. I will continue to work with the Follow Me Boy products and I have to order Kiss me now. I don't know too much about working with Bewitch products unfortunately. This situation is so nerve racking :'(

Unread post by **JayDee** » Sun May 04, 2014 10:41 am

So he is an ex lover of your yours with a child. Is he with baby mamma or is he clean and clear ( meaning no women). If he is with someone then you will also have to break them up. he may feel things for you but you will never see it while he is with her. Id do a break up jar and at the same time draw him to you. Adapting your work as you go is a trick of the trade, you see something is not working so you tweak it. Id consider this new week part of the 3 mo in general. In hoodoo you still need to do some of the dirty work so even if he is a cop who sleeps weird hours you still need to get out and do the work. Take a bath and pour a little on his step then every major intersection pour a bit more till you pour the remains on your step. this is done to bring him to you. LM powders sprinkled in his yard ( many ppl mix em with dirt to cover it up). Advise I was given a while back by a LM worker is if working on a person do it when they are sleeping because its easier to influence them. You can also take a photo of him speak to it and puff cigar smoke into the face as you tell it what to do think..similar you can get a doll baby made and work it the same manner. Did the reader say their was anything to do to prevent it? What will happen after.. call a LM worker because they do more then your local city reader, they will tell you if work will help, what works to do etc. You can even get Cat to read you and she is great!

natashanyc · Unread post by **natashanyc** » Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:09 am

I want to purchase something to mend the relationship of me and a past love, I unsure if the honey jar is my route or if I should go more coercive. I am in the middle of lighting a santa Martha 7 day candle which im not 100% sure of. I have looked over the site and there is a lot to choose from so I want to be sure

+my apologies about my previous posting, which required editing. I just read my email. I didn't kno the rules+

thank u MissCat I truly understand.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:22 am

Hi, natashanyc --

It is my opion that since you are already working a coercive prayer vigil spell with Saint Martha, as described in the Saint Martha thread, you have a choice here:

Either select a honey jar to SWEETEN him (in addition to the Saint Martha Work) or work a hoodoo-style (non-religious) spell to add to the COERCIVE effect.

Note that the honey jar is not less powerful or weaker than a corsion spell-- it simply has a different purpose. It is to sweeten someone's temperement.

Please see this "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice" page:

HONEY AND SUGAR JARS by catherine yronwode
http://luckyojo.com.honeyjar.html

For a hoodoo spell of coercion, try Return to Me blended with Essence of Bend-Over. Do not rely solely on passive candle spells. Do some real, down-home foot-track magic to get him to walk your way.

For more on Foot Track Magic, see this free web page, which is part of my free online book "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice":

FOOT-TRACK MAGIC IN THE HOODOO TRADITION by catherine yronwode
https://www.luckymojo.com/foottrack.html

Good luck.

natashanyc · Unread post by **natashanyc** » Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:29 am

1) With the honey jar, when I purchase it do I put the oil in the jar then the candle?

2) I also have a old baseball cap of his and a handwritten card he gave me for valentines day years ago, which may help. im guess I should place it by the candle when I burns?

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:40 am

Hi, natashanyc:

1) No, you use the oil to dress the candle. Buy an extra dozen candles when you purchase the honey jar. It comes with full, lengthy instructions.

2) This is a good thing to do, but i would recommend that your work in a more traditional way. For instance, with the cap, rub it on your pussy to keep sex with you always on his mind.

There is a lot more to hoodoo than burning candles!

Since you are seeming to commit to the honey jar to sweeten him, rather than coercive spells, i recommend that you go read the LONG honey jar spell thread here in the forum and continue the conversation there:

General Honey / Sugar / Sweet Jar Questions and Answers
http://forum.luckymojo.com/post152770.html

Then also, if you have the time and the nine bucks, buy a copy of the definitive all-time-great book on the subject, "Hoodoo Honey and Sugar Spells" by Deacon Millett:

BOO-GRI-HHSS
Hoodoo Honey and Sugar Spells by Deacon Millett
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You can order right here in the Forum by clicking on the blue Add To Cart button.

natashanyc · Unread post by **natashanyc** » Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:13 pm

I see you offer Santa Marta oil (blk woman), is that to be joined with the candle ? I was thinking of buying it along with the return to me oil and dressing a pink candle with it , or is that best to do with a honey jar for a lovers return? and I want him to make 1st contact, hes aleady sweet to me, hes passed being angry ...I just dnt know why hes not contacting right now or in the last month.

I just want to make sure I purchase the right items all at once .

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:41 pm

Hello, natashanyc,

I believe that Miss cat is talking about working with St Martha separately. And that oil would go on her candle.

Yes, you can use the return to me oil on the pink candle separately. Then, just continue the work that Miss cat suggested to you.

Take care

Angelkitty · Unread post by **Angelkitty** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 1:55 pm

Hi

All work that I have done in all aspects has been a success (blessing, healing, vinegar jar, break up works etc)but my return to me/reconciliation work (doll baby, mojo bag, honey jar) is extremely slow moving and the date that I intend to halt my work is fast approaching. Other than love, healing and clarity type products I only have crown of success oil and influence oil, but I want to place an order with LM this weekend so I was wondering which products and spells if any would help my situation? Would it be as simple as a purple candle instead of pink on my honey jar with a suitable oil?

Any help would be very greatly appreciated.

Unread post by **AlyssaH** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 3:05 pm

Intranquility spell kit, Restless products, or a Reconciliation kit w/ Return to me products.

affie · Unread post by **affie** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 3:11 pm

I would say that from what I have read i tranquility spell is a bit harsh, it torments the person until they return then they return angry...... You might want to check with an airr reader to see if you have been using correct spells and also to see if there is anything/anyone preventing your ex from returning. Just my advice, good luck!

Unread post by **J-Mo** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 4:28 pm

Hello angelkitty,

Reconciliation work can be slow moving and difficult. I would suggest getting a reading from a member of AIRR http://www.readersandrootworkers.org/wi ... ootworkers to see if reconciliation is possible for this relationship and what obstacles are in your way.

If you wanted to be a bit more heavy handed with your work i would go with Commanding products http://www.luckymojo.com/commanding.html or i dominate my man http://www.luckymojo.com/products-i-dom ... y-man.html

best of luck!

Angelkitty · Unread post by **Angelkitty** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 4:30 pm

Thank you all for your help and advice. I will definitely be following your guidance. X

Unread post by **JayDee** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:51 pm

Angelkitty,

You said its slow to move, but are you seeing signs and movement? If so keep up the work dont give up or in.. consider doing a van van, a road opener, or a block buster to help open things up for you. Rec work can be slow and take time as do honey jars but they are long lasting and worth the effort. The trick is not to get upset or bothered as you wait it out! If seeing signs and movement its ok to extend the work, setting a date is good when no signs and its time to cut free. If you need guidance then get a reading from an AIRR worker and see what they say about the work and timing etc. Setting time frames is a blessing and curse, blessing because it stopes you from over thinking obsessing etc, curse because after that time frame passes people feel defeated and lost like it wont happen ( not true).

Angelkitty · Unread post by **Angelkitty** » Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:58 am

Hi,

I was advised by a reader that there is a reconciliation in our future if I'm sure to follow a course of spells, which I have been doing and also all of which seem to have worked (break up, freezer spell, vinegar jar, cut and clear, clarity, healing etc) I have been working my honey jar since May and my doll baby since a little bit after that. I have had 2 block buster candles set by MISC and usually have one or two return to me or reconciliation candles set a month also. I don't have any block buster or road opener products yet, but I'm about to order them. I have just been burning an orange or sometimes a white candle dressed in holy type 7-11 oil with a petition underneath and saying appropriate road opening prayers and psalms. I still completely believe that we will be back together soon, especially given all of the recent dreams and signs. I'm just having a rough time personally in most aspects of my life and so I'm being silly and impatient. Thanks for your help once again! X

Unread post by **AlyssaH** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:03 am

Why would you do a Cut & Clear for somebody that you're trying to get back, hon?

Angelkitty · Unread post by **Angelkitty** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 11:11 am

I was advised to do one on his behalf to rid him of feelings for his ex.

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:26 pm

AlyssaH ,

Sometimes when you do a cut and clear you might get the person back without the habit that you hated.

So for example, I am with Antonio Banderas (<----wishful thinking)

And he's got all these good qualitites

Handsome
Sexy
Good Lover

And he has bad things that I absolutely hate

Still in-love with his ex wife
Womanizer
Spends too much time away from home working

So I do a cut a clear to get away from this man who has these bad qualities and bring me a man with only the good qualities that Antonio has.

Sometimes, Spirit has a sense of humor (or believes that Antonio is the best man for me). Antonio might come back to me never mentioning Melanie again, only having eyes for me, and cuts down his work projects to spend more time with me.

So, sometimes this happens with a Cut & Clear.

http://www.luckymojo.com/cutandclear.html

Hope this helps

take care

PreciousCC · Unread post by **PreciousCC** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:28 pm

Cat,

How can you make your EX think of YOU and ONLY YOU.

My ex is still single, but he doesn't want to get back together right now. Not sure if he even thinks about me anymore....:/

How do I get him to think about me positively and want me again?

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:39 pm

Hello, ILoveMyExAndrew,

Many of us moderators and extremely knowledgeable rootworkes have given you an incredible amount of information and sound advice.

You can look up: Obsession spells on this subforum (I thought I had given you the link).

So, please, try what has been suggested to you.

Wishing you the best

Unread post by **AlyssaH** » Tue Oct 14, 2014 8:53 am

Miss Aida wrote:AlyssaH ,

Sometimes when you do a cut and clear you might get the person back without the habit that you hated.

So for example, I am with Antonio Banderas (<----wishful thinking)

And he's got all these good qualitites

Handsome
Sexy
Good Lover

And he has bad things that I absolutely hate

Still in-love with his ex wife
Womanizer
Spends too much time away from home working

So I do a cut a clear to get away from this man who has these bad qualities and bring me a man with only the good qualities that Antonio has.

Sometimes, Spirit has a sense of humor (or believes that Antonio is the best man for me). Antonio might come back to me never mentioning Melanie again, only having eyes for me, and cuts down his work projects to spend more time with me.

So, sometimes this happens with a Cut & Clear.

http://www.luckymojo.com/cutandclear.html

Hope this helps

take care

Thank you. I had noticed that my husband, almost immediately, tried to reconcile with me following my Cut & Clear, but when I laid out what he would have to do to achieve this, he begged his mistress to take him back. I think the worst part is over for me, but with my personality the Cut & Clear has taken quite some time to take effect on me, lol.

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:33 pm

Hello, AlyssaH,

But it sounds like it's working.

That's the best part

Take care

gypsywitchxxx · Unread post by **gypsywitchxxx** » Fri Oct 24, 2014 5:51 pm

Quick question regarding current work on target. Is it normal for him to be in some what of a confused like state around me? I saw him last night & every other time I've been around him he seems almost "zombie like". He also seems a little bit irritated at me & has this snobby superior air about him. He def does as my petition states: come to me, seek me. It's crazy bc he'll seem to show up where he knows I hang out but last night for example didn't try to go home with me.

Energy · Unread post by **Energy** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 2:22 pm

Hello,

Please I need advise on the spell and products to use. My lover, who is in the military just told me that he is being transferred to another state which is thousands of miles away in April 2015. I need help with the spell and products to use to make him ask me to go with him. I love him so much, feel that he is my soulmate and will move to any part of the country with him if he asks me. Please help me.

Thank you so much.

Unread post by **JayDee** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:01 pm

ENERGY,

If he is your lover, how long has he been your lover? I would do a honey jar to sweeten him to you, add deer tongue herb for him to be vocal about it. then slowly talk to him about it, I am not sure why you decided to force him to ask then sweeten him to it or to the idea.. I would try sweet first.

Energy · Unread post by **Energy** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:35 pm

Thanks J82, we have been lovers for about a year. We have intense chemistry. I don't want to be the one that would ask. I want him to ask me. I want it to come from him. What can I do, what products can I use to get him to verbally ask me? Thanks

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:34 pm

Hello, Energy,

You can try a skull candle spell using Influence oil. The entire spell is here: www.luckymojo.com/influence.html

I recommend that you talk to the skull candle (while it is lit) frequently to put the idea into his head.

And you can also make a doll baby and do the same.

Good luck and I hope that he asks you soon!!

Love_is_poison · Unread post by **Love_is_poison** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:35 pm

Hello all

I have read up a lot but I want clarification. I have been seeing someone off and on for two years. I love him dearly and I believe he loves me. However he is a Libra and he is very on again off again with his emotions. I'm an Aquarius if that matters. Right now we are on ok terms but he is in one of his moods. I have a sharp tongue so I can have a tendency to push him away. In any event woulda honey jar be the best way to go? What would the next step be?

Hoodoo_Lady · Unread post by **Hoodoo_Lady** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:24 am

worked with an airr worker, and after a whole year me and my ex reconciled.

AMAZING!

he's been great until he moved some woman in his home, whom I think in his culture is pretending to be platonic, but is much more.

I realize I just need control over him, control over his decision making.

I want him to put this woman out, and move in with me, to cut out all these opportunities for third parties to interfere.

We have had it out big time all over again over this, so...I will be breaking out my reconciliation jar again.

Confused if I should do a break up or hotfoot candles on this woman ???

For complete control over him, I have saw post that suggested to ppl essence of bendover, command, domination, and influence, buying and using every oil might be overkill.

I want control over him completely, so he will put this random woman out, finally move in with me, and bend him completely to my will. Which oils should I combine above ??? Thank You family

Unread post by **aura** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:52 am

Hi Hoodoo_Lady,

If you've already worked with a rootworker and had success, it may be advised to contact them and get a reading to see how to best approach the situation.

To control him completely, I Dominate My Man would be the most appropriate. Cut on the harshness by combining it with Love Me or Dixie Love. Start by using it once a week and increase if he doesn't have an averse reaction to the control (or if you need a firmer hand). It's also worth reading the page on domination spells available here: http://www.luckymojo.com/femaledomination.html

I've also taken the liberty of merging your post into the existing thread on domination work and reconciliation. You'll find a number of useful suggestions within the posts herein.

For the third party, Break-Up splits them up, HotFoot gets her gone. Chances are what you're looking for is a combination of both.

Blessings.

Unread post by **aura** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:00 am

Hi Love_is_poison,

A honey jar is great for sweetening and a good way to help. What to do next then depends on if you want to bind, to coerce or a slow but steady improvement and in what direction. That your screen name is ''Love_is_poison'' tells me that you may want to concentrate on your own perception of love as painful and dangerous to one's health. Ascertain how much of these internal ideas concerning love are colouring how you interact with yourself and your significant other when it comes to relationship issues.

King Solomon Wisdom work is highly under-rated and under-valued when doing love work, but it can be quite critical for things to work well over the long haul. Besides, King Solomon wrote some of the most beautiful verse about Love even to this day - move over Shakespeare's sonnets and let through the Song of Songs! Read and meditate on it and see how it resonates or doesn't with your outlook on partnership.

Blessings and Success in your Couple

Hoodoo_Lady · Unread post by **Hoodoo_Lady** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:35 am

aura wrote:Hi Hoodoo_Lady,

If you've already worked with a rootworker and had success, it may be advised to contact them

For the third party, Break-Up splits them up, HotFoot gets her gone. Chances are what you're looking for is a combination of both.

Blessings.

Thank you so much Aura! My airr worker is my no fail go to guy, but my budget only permits me to work on this situation right now.

I feel I know what's right after all my airr workers successful hard work. I need to strike fast before I lose the momentum.

Thanks for clarifying break up and hotfoot, will be ordering those today.

Im still lost after reading all domination threads/pages.

He's stubborn, and he's not speaking to me, since the confrontation I've had with the woman.

I don't think 'I dominate my man' is appropriate right in this moment.

Im dealing with a military minded man, and I read on one thread one poster said she was using a combo of EoB, Command, Domimation, and Influence to make her ex return, apologize, and take control. I would like to use a combo of domination oils, but read the subtle differences. Im buying Essence of Bendover for sure, I want him humbled and obedient, Im thinking Command Compel Control too, but do I need Domination oil because its so Similar and Influence as I read it opens up persuasion not control.

Please help me family. Im placing my order in a few hours

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:15 pm

Hello, Hoodoo_Lady ,

I would get those oils and have them on hand.

But, I would try the compelling products first (since he's a dominant man by nature, it may be difficult to try to dominate him ).

Once he come around, then use your combinations.

Also, I highly suggest working with St Martha for these difficult cases.

Wishing you success with your spells.

take care

PreciousCC · Unread post by **PreciousCC** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:47 pm

What is St Martha? A spell? A prayer? Can you please elaborate?

Thank you

Unread post by **JayDee** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:00 pm

preciousCC,

st martha is a saint that is used to dominate and control a person mainly an ex. there are two saint marthas though the same person, one is black one white. the change is because one entered into hoodoo through the catholic movement in the south during slavery. you would petition her and pray to her for help while doing the required candles and offerings. Also note she is a spirt and works with those she chooses and connects with. I also know your background info from the forum and I suggest you keep with the work suggested by Cat and the Airr reader and stop over thinking things and have faith in the work you are doing. If you keep running from work to work you will see nothing.

PreciousCC · Unread post by **PreciousCC** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 9:15 pm

I pray psalm 23 & 32 for my honey jar along with my own prayers.....my friend tells me to pray to Oshun every Thursday and Saturday......is that okay???? Can I pray to Oshun while I am doing a different set of prayers with my honey jar????

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:11 pm

Hello, PreciousCC,

While we do that in Santeria, we don't in Hoodoo.

We don't discuss Santeria on the forum but I will break the rules (just this ONE TIME) and tell you to be careful with Honey and My Mama Oshun/Ochun. You have to know exactly what to do with that honey. So, I don't advise that you do that.

Happy New Year

PreciousCC · Unread post by **PreciousCC** » Thu Jan 01, 2015 8:44 pm

Wow I apologize for breaking the rules! I NEVER mean to do it! I love this site and have purchase a ton of stuff from here!

May I ask for just one clarification?

What do you mean "you have to know exactly what to do with that honey." What do you mean?

What should I do with that honey???! I would love to learn! Thank you.

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Thu Jan 01, 2015 10:03 pm

Hello, PreciousCC,

You did NOT break the rules. I broke the rule! LOL

Unfortunately, I can't discuss this on the forum. Just please heed my advice.

I can't teach you about Santeria.

Take care

PreciousCC · Unread post by **PreciousCC** » Fri Jan 02, 2015 9:30 am

Thank you Miss Aida for all the help and advise you have given me!

Can we talk about Santeria if I schedule a reading with you?

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:58 pm

Hello, PreciousCC,

I don't think that's necessary.

All I will tell you is not to use her name with the honey jar. That's not worth paying for a reading! LOL

Please be careful with the Orishas. They expect you to love them and honor them. Not just use their names in a love spell. And, if you start to doubt, that's not going to be a good thing because it won't work at all.

And I would try to have a little faith in my Hoodoo spells before moving to on something else.

Hoodoo works!

Take care

PreciousCC · Unread post by **PreciousCC** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:47 pm

I have NO doubts that hoodoo work!!!!

I bought almost everything from the reconcillation line here and LOVE IT that I see heart shape wax!

I also love it that my ex actually text me a few days ago!!!!! Even though it's not a romantic text of any kind! He still texted me! Better than nothing! I am not doubting anything!

I never pray to Oshun with my honey jar....I pray Pslam 23, 32 and my own handwritten prayers from the heart. I do this every single night religiously!

However I also had a friend's grandmother do a black magick love spell for me....it involved sheep sacfrice and a week of rituals....she is for REAL and I trust her....however she ask me to pray to Oshun every Thursday and Saturday for my spell to work and my ex to return etc. so I set up a totally different altar and set honey, cinnamon, and water and light a candle/wrote a petition etc for Oshun and I try my best to pray to her every Thursday and Saturday but a few times I have miss it.....

My last question is.....is it okay that I pray to Oshun on a totally separate altar....separate from all my hoodoo spells....or is it still a bad idea to do hoodoo and Santeria at the same time?

My apologizes for talking about this topic again! This is the LAST time. I just need a yes it's ok or no it's not and I'll drop it! Thank you so much!

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:33 am

Hello, PreciousCC ,

Please avoid this topic on this Hoodoo forum.

I gave you my advice. And I had also told you that this would be that this topic cannot be discussed on the Hoodoo Forum

If you have questions about the spell this lady performed, please ask her.

Additionally, working with Oshun is NOT a black magic spell.

You really have to drop this subject on this forum

Thank you

watatah · Unread post by **watatah** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:27 pm

I've worked several awesome sweetener jars on this girl I really want to be with to no avail. They're clearly not the right answer. Me and her had a short thing but she reconciled with her boyfriend of 5 years, which I completely understood. He was a piece of shit who didn't deserve a girl as sweet as her, so I used a lemon break up work which worked wonders. He showed his true colors to the point where she couldn't stand him and was so hurt by how shitty he was that now she has a super guard up and won't let me show her how she should be treated. I need something a little more coercive to open her up to me, because as soon as she'll give me a chance, she'll realize why she liked me so much in the first place lol. Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Unread post by **JayDee** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:20 pm

watatah,

Advice: one. get a reading to see whats going on between the two of you and what work to do to get her back. 2. I bet she is sweet and I bet you are laying it on her two fold, IE you are soo prietty you deserve better.. etc.. meaning you come across desperate and girls ( nor guys) want that. So toughen up, dont be soo needy or available. 3. You assume sweet is not the way ( though you are correct if no movement to do another working), Sweet may work well once you get to the real issue which is she is not over her ex ( what he did) and needs to be cleansed, then work on drawing her back. I would look into items like follow me girl, kiss me now ( spice it up) etc.

watatah · Unread post by **watatah** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:21 pm

j82 wrote:watatah,

Advice: one. get a reading to see whats going on between the two of you and what work to do to get her back. 2. I bet she is sweet and I bet you are laying it on her two fold, IE you are soo prietty you deserve better.. etc.. meaning you come across desperate and girls ( nor guys) want that. So toughen up, dont be soo needy or available. 3. You assume sweet is not the way ( though you are correct if no movement to do another working), Sweet may work well once you get to the real issue which is she is not over her ex ( what he did) and needs to be cleansed, then work on drawing her back. I would look into items like follow me girl, kiss me now ( spice it up) etc.

I'm definitely not overly nice or any of that to her or anyone lol. That's not in my personality at all. And I had a reading done that said my work would be successful by the end of the month, but I haven't seen any movement at all.

Leema · Unread post by **Leema** » Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:45 am

Hi Everyone,

I'm going to have a reading done but I just wanted to see if there was a general consensus on things that might be helpful in my particular situation. I'm trying to get my ex back. We've been broken up for 4 months. We broke up because I started getting depressed towards the end of our relationship (am dealing with it now, in therapy) and I took it out on him. I made it very hard for him to be with me during that time by constantly picking fights, nagging him, and just generally being unbearable. We haven't spoken since the beginning of November, (though I've tried to reach out to him with occasional texts) when he sent me a few brief texts about how he was still thinking of me and that he often saw things that reminded him of me.

I felt, and still feel, so certain that he and I were soul mates. We dated for almost 2 years and he would often tell me that he wanted to spend the rest of his life with me (and of course, I want to spend mine with him). I've been fighting for the past 4 months to get him back in any way I can, including doing other spells (one beauty spell to increase self-confidence, which I've seen some results with [attracting many others in the weeks after I first cast it, but not my ex], two photo binding spells, a candle-lighting spell, and one spell to set my intentions for the new year.

I'm thinking of doing a honey jar spell, but whatever I do, I want it to be stronnnng. He is a cancer - very stubborn in breakups and he may still be feeling hurt for all I know. All my attempts at sweetening his disposition towards me have, to my knowledge, not worked. Any other spells I should try, with the jar or instead of the jar? Anything else I should do?

Thank you for any feedback.

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:48 pm

Hello, Leema,

Yes, I think that the honey jar is an excellent spell to start right away. It's slow acting but it's strong.

And I also strongly recommend a reconciliation spell kit for this matter: www.luckymojo.com/spell-reconciliation.html

It assists in forgiving and forgetting past events.

I wish you the best of luck

Take care

Leema · Unread post by **Leema** » Tue Jan 27, 2015 7:45 pm

Thank you for your quick reply, Miss Aida.

I am not currently in contact with my ex, nor do I know if he is with someone new, but I do still generally know his schedule/where he lives/who he spends his time with. It says on the reconciliation spell page "your chance of success is somewhat lower. If you haven't spoken to the person in a long time, don't know their location, are not sure whether they have found someone new, etc., i advise against trying the Reconciliation Spell Kit or mojo hand until you have resumed contact with the one whom you desire." Is it worth trying anyway?
And are there spells or products that encourage him to reach out to me? My primary issue now is that he isn't responding to my attempts at talking with him.

Would it help to anoint the candles I use in my honey jar spell with things like lodestone oil, follow me boy, love me, come to me, fast luck, lavender love, etc etc etc? Or is there something else that I could use those with?

Thank you so much, again.

Leema · Unread post by **Leema** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:29 pm

Sorry for my frequent posts! I just have new information that might be relevant to anyone's answers to my questions.

I received my first reading and was told that my ex 'fears me'. Which makes sense, as my emotions were very volatile and I picked many fights with him during the month before the breakup. I'm sure that he fears that I would be the same person that I was during that time, which I can comfortably say is not true. One of my primary concerns for doing a reconciliation spell with the written letter is that he wouldn't be particularly receptive because of his fear of me. But I worry about doing a coercive spell, like intranquility, because of his fear as well.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you so much.

Leema · Unread post by **Leema** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:43 pm

Sorry, sorry, so many posts! I just keep thinking of things to ask after I've already posted something.
But just one more question about the honey jar - if I don't have one of his hairs, can I use a cutting of fabric from an article of his clothing (like a scarf) and one of my hairs? or a cutting of one of my articles of clothing?
And would it be better to put a photo of the two of us together from a time when we were happy, or just a photo of him?

Also, I keep reading about lodestones and how people have gotten their exes back quickly after using lodestones on their ex. Can anyone give me more information about how to work lodestone magic other than the live lodestones in the honey jars?

And lastly, if I had lodestone jewelry (like earrings) could I anoint them with the oils I mentioned before and wear them every day for added effect, or would that do.. nothing?

Thanks so much, and my apologies for all the posts!

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:52 pm

Hello, Leema,

On your first post, it doesn't hurt to try. As I always tell people: you have absolutely nothing to lose by trying.

On your second post, my question would be: What did your reader recommend? I personally do not like the Intranquil Spirit spells. But you could use a skull candle and use a commanding oil to make him contact you: www.luckymojo.com/commanding.html

Or Compelling: www.luckymojo.com/compelling.html

BUT, not sue if I would use those without asking why he fears you. What happened that he fears you? You may need to work on a spell to diminish the cause of that fear.

On your third post, here is the page about lodestones (there's all kinds of information for spells here): www.luckymojo.com/lodestone.html

I hope this helps

take care

Leema · Unread post by **Leema** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:03 pm

Thank you so much for your reply Miss Aida.

My reader hasn't yet recommended anything to help resume contact, though he did see that there might be someone that is interested in my ex/someone who my ex might be interested in, though he saw that it is not serious. My reader told me that a love spell/reconciliation spell would help push my ex's attentions towards me instead, and encourage communication from him.

I'm a bit hesitation to do an intranquil or other commanding spell just because as I said in one of those posts, the problem right now is that he does fear me, and I would hate to confuse him in that way. He fears me because I wasn't very emotionally stable at all in the last month or so before we broke up. I got depressed because I couldn't find work after graduating school this past May and I didn't invest any time in myself or in finding my own new group of friends in the city after I moved in with him. I relied on him for everything, including my happiness, which was unhealthy because I blamed him for my unhappiness as a direct result. I picked fights, nagged, and was generally very hard to deal with, I'm sure. I'm also sure that a huge part of the reason why he hasn't wanted to get back together is because he fears that I will be the same person I was right before we broke up. He had a very stressful job and he came home to a very stressful house, which was not ideal because as a cancer, that is something that he favors very highly.

Are there any spells that you might recommend to diminish that fear? I'm very new to this sort of thing, and I'm sorry if this has been addressed elsewhere!

Thank you for the page about lodestones! I'm thinking of including a pair of small matched lodestones in my honey jar, and 3 of the following oils for anointing my candles: Adam and eve, love me, return to me, reconciliation, Chuparrosa, Fire of love, and/or Attraction oil.

and 4 of the following herbs to put in the jar itself: star anise, lavender flowers, jasmine flowers, honeysuckle flowers, Elecampane, Deer's Tongue leaf, and balm of gilead.

Any particular recommendations, out of those? I've asked my reader as well but I'm still waiting for a response.

Thank you so so so much.

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:46 pm

Hello, Leema,

I'm thinking that you may want to do some healing spells on him: www.luckymojo.com/healing.html

While you're waiting for your reader to respond, Try using a white skull candle with healing oil on it. www.luckymojo.com/mojocatcadles.html

Then, talk to the candle and tell it to forgive you.

Then, move to the spells that your reader suggested.

Since you have asked your reader what is recommended, I don't want to interfere in his recommendations

Wishing you the very best

Xoxolove · Unread post by **Xoxolove** » Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:06 pm

Hi guys!

So apart from my vinegar jar I am doing to break up two people I decided to lit 3 break candles & an the intranquility spell.
So literally 2 hours after I finished the spell I started to get very emotional and just started remembering everything my ex bf and I had and was crying.
It was very weird for me because mind you I stopped crying almost 3 months ago. Could this be the side affects of the intranquility spirit? If so would this be a good or bad sign?

Unread post by **Ms Melanie** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:47 am

Hi Xoxolove,

I would certainly say it is from the Intranquil Spell. Be sure to cleanse yourself really good. I recommend the 13 herb bath: www.herb-magic.com/13herb-bath-13.html
Do this for 13 days.

Good Luck!!

StarStruck · Unread post by **StarStruck** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:14 pm

Hello all, I hope I'm in the right place to post. This post is about a fast and young relationship and the love work that I have done...an abrupt ending, and return-to-me work.

I met the most incredible man just short of a month ago. On our first date I just had this feeling about him...knew he was a keeper and even marriage material. He is perfect and exactly what I want for my long-term mate. Amazingly I was able to procure one of his hairs and I immediately worked a honey jar that night at home.

Honey Jar:
-His hair and my hair tied together.
-His name written 7 times, turn paper clockwise, my name written over his name 7 times. Petition in a circle around our names: "Love me, commit to me." Petition dressed with attraction oil and follow me boy oil.
- Herbs: LM's love herb mix to draw love, promote passion, and get him to speak his thoughts; additionally, catnip to captivate and win his heart; cinnamon to heat things up; cardamom to bring about good luck to the love affair.

Before anything, I initially burned a white candle on the jar dressed in blessing oil and van van oil to bless the work and to remove obstacles so that the work may take hold. Since then (and maybe this is a bit excessive) I have been burning pink candles daily, dressed in attraction and follow me boy. Praying the same petition: "Love me, commit to me. Find me attractive above all the other girls. Follow me to the ends of the earth-- cling to me, need me, and beg me to be yours."

Contact was positive over the next few dates. He even asked me "what did you do to me to make me like you so much?" and of course I thought of the honey jar but would never tell him. Telling me so many sweet and beautiful things and professing his desire to stay with me for a very long time.

Had a reading with Ms. cat somewhere in the middle of this and she pulled some beautiful cards for us. The relationship had real potential and the cards showed possibilities for something long term, even possibly marriage. The cards also showed that he would respond very well to candle magic. So doing the honey jar with the candles I suppose is a good thing.

We live in different cities, about an hour apart. Recently we had made plans for an evening out and about 30 minutes before I left to meet him he called me and abruptly cut things off, stating that he just couldn't do this. Long distance was going to be too hard on him and he had a bad feeling he couldn't shake. Something with his emotions had changed in a short period of time and he just didn't think that this relationship was what he wanted in his life anymore. I tried to reason with him, offered compromises, but he remained firm in his position. I am stunned and just sick inside about it all.

I scheduled (another) reading on this situation to see what's really going on and if reconciliation/return is possible, but the earliest opening on her calendar is in about 3 weeks. In the meantime I have switched to burning pink "return to me" candles on the honey jar. I created another name paper and petition ("realize your mistake and return to me," anointed with return to me oil) but I have stopped short of putting the petition in the honey jar. For now I have it folded up and sitting underneath the honey jar as I burn the return to me candles on it. I know this is not the honey jar forum, but if any seasoned practitioners have insight on whether this is okay or whether I should go ahead and open the jar to add the new petition in with the old one I would appreciate it.

I have also done a couple of 13-herb baths on myself in order to cleanse and protect. Even though the work isn't dark, I know I'm still messing with energies by trying to do this love work, and I want to purify as best as I can.

I do have reconciliation oil too but wasn't sure if it would be appropriate since we didn't have a big fight or anything...it was just very abrupt on his behalf to end the relationship.

So now that I've gotten the background information out, I am curious about things I can do in the meantime while I wait for my reading. I have worked with St Expedite in the past and he has come through for me, and I was thinking about petitioning him again for a fast return of this man. I am also starting to read about St. Martha the Dominator and I'm curious if she might be right for this situation. I was thinking that I should have lights set at MISC to back up what I am doing here with the honey jar. Unfortunately I only have that one hair of his in the honey jar and suppose that I could open it, cut off a small piece for whatever other work is to be done in the future, and put the rest of it back in (praying over the jar after closing it)...would that be acceptable? Now that he's essentially cut me off I don't have access to his personal effects anymore.

I want to make him see that walking away from this relationship is a big mistake and to command him to come back to me and give this a chance. I am currently waiting on some LM products to arrive (specifically "love me" oil, "marriage" oil, a red skull candle, and a few other items).

Thoughts about what I've done so far? Thoughts about what I can do in the meantime until my reading? Thoughts about MISC lights?

Thanks to all and if this is inappropriate because of the strong honey jar references I apologize and will understand if the topic is moved.

Unread post by **natstein** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 4:10 pm

Hello StarStruck,

So far everything you have done sounds good to me. The abrupt change in the relationship is odd. You are correct about the Reconciliation oil not being as suited to this situation since there was not any kind of fight or argument that happened. Return To Me products are better suited to this.

For the new petition I would also just keep it under the current honey jar. This type of thing can vary from worker to worker though. I also wanted to point out that daily burning of candles is not excessive as long as you are not overly worrying over the situation as you burn them.

So keep burning your pink candles like you are doing while you wait on the reading. You may also want to do some Clarity work on yourself so you can see clearly what is going on.

Candles at MISC I always think are a good idea. I recommend the Return To Me candles. You may consider doing a run of them to keep the pressure on.

I personally do not work a lot with Saints but if you have the relationship with them I say go for it.

Another thing you can do is post a prayer at the Crystal Silence League for your situation. This will get a lot of people praying for you.

I hope this is helpful!

Peace~

Nathen

StarStruck · Unread post by **StarStruck** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:35 pm

Thanks Nathen, I really like the idea to have the lights set in runs. Think I will do just that!