Too Many Spells, Spell Burn-Out, Spell Overload

TheBestest · Unread post by **TheBestest** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:51 pm

starsinthesky7 wrote:Is she the cheating type? I mean if she is a loyal woman and that is typically not in her character you may be wasting your time. Would he leave her if she did cheat? If not then you are wasting your time. I would just do the break up work and let the universe break them up however they are going to break up.

Ive done a lot of break up work because I first started hoodoo by trying to get my own boyfriend back from the other woman. The most successful tricks in my own case, and others is my doing either a vinegar jar, or the break up bottle. Its even better when you can work the break up bottle and put it on the property of the couple or at least the property of the person you want to break them up with. Ive had great success with these types of container spells for break up work.

Another factor with any kind of work is proximity. I believe that the closer you can get to your targets, the more likely you are to hit them with the work. I remember throwing break up powder in their path or the girl I didnt want him with path. For clients, I like to mail something with break up powder to them on it.

On the other hand, there is some work that may not be break up work per se, but it can still help. For example, I did a freezer spell to hold her back, and not be able to come to his house. I work with Saint Martha to not only bring him back, but hold back the competition.

So I would get a reading for a plan of action. And to see if you can even break them up.

Well year ago I did a spell to break them up and she cheated but years later he left me for her, so she is the cheating type. The key is to hurt him so bad that this time he won't want to go back to her. I never added into that spell to KEEP them broken up! That was my flaw.

TheBestest · Unread post by **TheBestest** » Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:50 am

Joseph Magnuson wrote:At least you are thinking it through and asking intelligent question of us before continuing the work. This shows a fine level of wanting to be thorough. Also, thank you for being gracious and saying thank you! It is much appreciated!

Of I'm EXTREMELY greatful! I love to make a plan of action before executing it, so I figured I'd ask before really screwing things up. Now if that happens I'll complain, and I'm too old for that,lol.

Cupcake · Unread post by **Cupcake** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:32 pm

how can you keep someone from breaking up a relationship? hyssop, uncrossing,etc? sorry if this has been posted before

Unread post by **aura** » Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:12 am

Uncrossing would be the first step, yes. Thirteen herb bath, jinx-killer and/or uncrossing can all work for that. Hyssop, not so much although in a pinch it'll do, since it's more traditionall used for cleansing yourself from sin (when you've crossed someone up) than for removing crossed conditions - think more along the lines of a bath of rue, coffee, kosher salt, a splash of ammonia and some agrimony. Keeping your relationship protected after the uncrossing work would be important. And if you know who's doing the work, a babydoll of them bound and buried in a mirror-box will keep the work reversed and your relationship from harm, http://www.luckymojo.com/reversing.html.

You may also want to ensure your relationship is strong and fancy-free by keeping a honey jar going for you and your significant other. The LM ''peaceful home'' or ''stay at home, no running around'' honey jar would be good for this: http://www.luckymojo.com/mojocatspells.html#honeyjar.

Blessings and best of luck.

Cupcake · Unread post by **Cupcake** » Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:09 am

Thank you so much Aura! i am starting a honey jar today. i will look into the items you listed.

MarkiMark1776 · Unread post by **MarkiMark1776** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:07 pm

Hello all,

I know I've been posting like a mad woman, but I am going through a lot lately and desperately need solutions to my problems. I'm in the middle of a clarity spell regarding steady work.My candle is close to burning out and I think it has been showing me that I will have to continue in the industry of office work/reception in order to get work, which I hate

, and not to trust any one who I've trusted before to help me look for work. I want to pursue a staff job as a writer, and even contacted former alumni who graduated from the same college as me with the same major as me (journalism/creative writing). They all told me to give up on my dream if I wanted to eat and pay my bills. On top of this disappointment, a lot of bad events have taken place where I live to the point I must get a job ASAP in order to move ( my neighbor was just murdered and this type of thing happens often where I live!) I need to do multiple spells maybe at once. How can I do this effectively? What are some recommendations on spell kits or other conjure to help with my problems, which are as follows:

1. Reversing Bad luck/removing obstacles that keep me from accomplishing goals
2. Career change/finding a permanent job I enjoy doing that pays well
3. Overall Protection from dangerous people who may wish harm on me

Again, Any Advice is greatly appreciated!

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:19 pm

I would start with cleansing, yes cleansing, try 13 Herb (13 days) (http://herb-magic.com/13herb-bath-13.html) to remove crossed conditions followed with Van Van (complete kit) (http://www.luckymojo.com/vanvan.html), Crown of Success or Lodestone Spell work to bring in things that you desire. Now I wouldn't stop there, I love the spiritual baths and would complete a ritual of 13 Herb, 9 Herb (http://herb-magic.com/9herb-bath-9.html) and 7 herb (http://herb-magic.com/7herb-bath-7.html) spiritual baths while working the other conjure. They each serve a purpose.

MarkiMark1776 · Unread post by **MarkiMark1776** » Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:46 am

Hi jwmcclin,

Thanks for your reply. I've been experiencing bad luck lately to the point I don't know what to do! So I will definitely be getting the 13 herb baths and the van van kit for that. My bad luck is never ending and has been for a very long time! Any other combination of spells is greatly appreciated for creating specific job opportunities ASAP, mastering/accomplishing what I need to happen, focus and power, etc.

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:31 pm

Start by really dedicating yourself to a strong cleansing work first. Try doing 3-7 days of the 13-Herb + Van Van baths to deepen the effect. See how things open up from there.

Wanting love for 2 · Unread post by **Wanting love for 2** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:30 am

Hello,

I am looking to perform a break up spell as well as a reconciliation spell. Should one be done befor the other? Also is performing one spell enough? Should you set a time limit, perform the spell or spells and wait that time, or perform more than one in that time limit? Its my understanding that 90 days is a good time limit.I am aware that once your time limit is up you should go ahead and perform a cut and clear.

Thanks All!

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:47 pm

Good questions! Break up work can be performed first, followed by Reconciliation because Breaking up someone doesn't mean they will come to you as a result. Now several of your questions can only be answered generically without background information (a reading). Although setting a time limit for both types of work are appropriate in most situations. 3 days 3 weeks and 3 months is the time limit traditional set for spell work...

Unread post by **JayDee** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:41 pm

While you do this work I have noticed that it helps to have a 7 day candle set and burning while you do the work, either set it yourself or pay LM or one of the workers to do it for you. Not only does it reinforce the work 24/7 but you get the added advantage of the candle reports which tell how the work is going. Setting a time limit is key in rec work i waisted years on an ex who went back and forth with me till I finally cut and cleared. Know your limit. 90 days really is a good time frame. Wish the best!

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:58 pm

Good solid advice j82. Here is information for candle services at Lucky Mojo (http://www.luckymojo.com/mojocatcandleservices.html)

oceanblue · Unread post by **oceanblue** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:27 pm

Thank you for the additional advice.

Wanting love for 2 · Unread post by **Wanting love for 2** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:16 am

Thanks jwmcclin THANKS for the advise. I just wanted to be sure first.

I read that it sohould go that way but couldnt find it again so I figured I would ask you all! J82 good advice didnt think about donig that! That would really help THANKS!!

Wanting love for 2 · Unread post by **Wanting love for 2** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:30 am

I checked out the candel service for lucky mojo however it does not say how soon the candle will be lit once I submit payment. If you can help with that info that would be great!
Thanks again!

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:43 am

Wanting love for 2 - please do not post the same question in more than one thread. It is against the forum terms of service, and just makes a bunch of extra work for the mods and admins who have to either delete or move the duplicate questions.

Wanting love for 2 · Unread post by **Wanting love for 2** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:41 am

Devi Spring~ I don't see 2 post of the same thing. The post today were one of thanks and one asking question about LM candle to the person that made the suggestion. Thanks

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:11 pm

You asked in a separate thread (this one to be exact: misc-candles-set-at-missionary-independ ... tml#p95167) how long it takes LM to light a candle after you purchased it, and then you asked that same question again in this thread. That is what I am referring to.

kyleskonjure · Unread post by **kyleskonjure** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:58 am

I read something somewhere that said there should be a certain period of time between spells cast, is that true?

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:55 pm

Some people prefer to wait after work to see if it has taken effect, some time their work according to various timing traditions, and others work in regular intervals or daily etc.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:44 pm

I like the titling cat...this is definitely an issue that has been asked quite often. The answer is depends on circumstances.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:51 pm

Hi, jwmclin -- Thanks. I am trying to compile these common question and answer sessions into longer threads with more inclusive titles and then change them to "sticky" posts so they "stick" up at the tops of their sub-forums where people can see and READ them before re-posting the same question again...

... and if folks do post the same questions again in new threads, i again compile their posts into the previous thread and make sure the thread is "sticky" and appears sat the top.

Any of the mods can do this, by the way!

Nellie · Unread post by **Nellie** » Wed May 09, 2012 2:18 pm

I want to cast three love spells. Is that over doing it? The spells I want to cast are the Attraction Spell, the Lavender Love Spell Kit, and the Break Up/Stay with me Spell.

I want her back bad.

Unread post by **Mary Bee** » Wed May 09, 2012 4:54 pm

It's not "bad" to cast several spells to work towards one goal. You just have to plan what order you do the spells. In this case, it seems the one you love is with another person. So first, I'd do a Break Up spell to break up her and the other person.

Then, I'd do a Come To Me spell to draw your ex back towards you, and throw some Stay With Me products in there to keep her from leaving you again.

Mary Bee

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Wed May 09, 2012 7:10 pm

Well said MaryBee.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Thu May 10, 2012 2:22 am

I would have went with a reconciliation spell kit and added some return to me products to bring the ex back to you.

www.luckymojo.com/reconciliation.html

Nellie · Unread post by **Nellie** » Thu May 10, 2012 5:29 am

Thank you all for your replies. They have been very helpful in helping me make a decision on what is the better thing to do.

The situation seems to have changed a little. My ex told me the other relationship is over, but she is still in love with this person although she know she is not good for her.

Question: Should I still use the break up spell? I will still use either the Come to Me, Stay with me, or the Reconciliation spell.

What do I do in this situation? We still communicate, although she is still not of the mind set that we will get back together as partners.

Unread post by **MissMichaele** » Thu May 10, 2012 7:56 pm

Nellie wrote:The situation seems to have changed a little. My ex told me the other relationship is over, but she is still in love with this person although she know she is not good for her.

It sounds like this is a Cut and Clear case for sure! Either that or Cast Off Evil. It depends on how bad for her the other person is, and in what ways.

Question: Should I still use the break up spell?

Yes, but add some Cut and Clear products. Clarity, too.

I will still use either the Come to Me, Stay with me, or the Reconciliation spell.

Start with Reconciliation and add some Come to Me products; wait on the Stay With Me kit until she has actually come back.

What do I do in this situation? We still communicate, although she is still not of the mind set that we will get back together as partners.

Dress your phone and computer, or any snailmail you send her, with Reconciliation.

Cut and Clear spells and supplies
http://www.luckymojo.com/cutandclear.html
Cast Off Evil spells and supplies
http://www.luckymojo.com/castoffevil.html

Hope this helps,

Miss Michaele

Nellie · Unread post by **Nellie** » Fri May 11, 2012 1:57 am

How is cut and clear going to help if I want my ex back? I though cut and clear was to break ties with an ex.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Fri May 11, 2012 4:32 am

A cut and clear cuts emotional ties or baggage from the past.

Unread post by **MissMichaele** » Mon May 14, 2012 9:32 am

Nellie wrote:How is cut and clear going to help if I want my ex back? I though cut and clear was to break ties with an ex.

The Cut and Clear is to help your should-be-girlfriend fall out of love with Miss Bad News. You can use it with the Break Up work.

Good luck and good magic,

Miss Michaele

Rookie2conjure · Unread post by **Rookie2conjure** » Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:19 am

I am new to spells and want to learn.

I have a question, I want to purchase different kits, how many kits can I start in once? How would this work? Also, do I need an altar? I am wanting to do spells frequently.

Thanks in advance.

If you have any suggestions for beginners please let me know.

Unread post by **Doctor Hob** » Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:34 am

If you are intending to do work on a regular basis, you will need an altar space. This doesn't have to be elaborate. You can use just about any flat surface that is cleaned and dedicated to altar use. The size of this space has some say in the number of spells you have going at once. You can only work what you can fit comfortably on your altar space. If you're new to doing work, I would start off slowly, instead of jumping into multiple, simultaneous spells.

You can learn a tremendous amount reading Miss cat's free online book Hoodoo in Theory and Practice:

http://www.luckymojo.com/hoodoo.html

And if you have not already, pick up her print book, Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic:

http://www.luckymojo.com/hoodooherbmagic.html

Also, make sure you tune in on Sundays to listen to the Lucky Mojo Hoodoo Rootwork Hour radio show. It is very educational:

http://www.luckymojo.com/radioshow.html

Rookie2conjure · Unread post by **Rookie2conjure** » Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:21 am

Thank you for this information.

I spoke to a friend. she said that i need to be careful to close the spell work when I am done, she did not give any information how to. She only told me that if I dont close the work properly that I would or may leave spirits with me and they can make my life miserable... what do you know about this? I really want to start, but I dont want to start without knowing anything, other than the instructions to do the spell. Where can I get this information how to start a job and close it? Thanks!

Unread post by **Doctor Hob** » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:45 am

It's hard to approach your concerns without knowing the tradition of spellwork your friend is refering to. In hoodoo, we're largely calling on help from spirits that we want to keep around. Many practitioners cultivate a relationship with our ancestors, or other friendly dead, even making a confortable place for them on our ancestor altars. Along with working with the dead, or other spirit allies, like the Saints, for some workers, hoodoo spellwork usually involves calling on God (or however you define the Divine Spirit) to see the rightness of the work, and to let it be so. We give offerings to show thanks to our spirit allies, and praise unto Spirit.

There are traditions of magic that call for very precise care when using, but you are unlikely to begin practicing one of those by accident, without being exposed to its particular warnings and protocols. The care taken in hoodoo is a craftman's care. We measure twice, cut once, and are careful to tie up our loose ends, so that the work gets done properly.

Read Miss cat's books, listen to the radio show, ask questions, and listen to the answers. Do not bring fear with you. It isn't nearly as complicated as it seems.

Rookie2conjure · Unread post by **Rookie2conjure** » Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:46 pm

Thank you! I try not to fear! I am a believe of like attracts like!

I just want to make sure, which is why I ask a lot of questions.

Thank you so much for answering my questions!

Unread post by **Doctor Hob** » Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:08 pm

You are very welcome. There is a lot to learn. I try to learn a little more every day. Just keep at it.

bzbee12 · Unread post by **bzbee12** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:51 pm

Hi,
My friend wants to start honey jar work tomorrow but her grandmother passed away last week- may God bless her soul. She asked me if she should wait before starting the work, I don't know the answer so suggested I'd ask here. Hopefully the experts have the answer.
Many thanks in advance.

Unread post by **JayDee** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:55 pm

As long as the jar is not for grandma I dont see a problem. Also if this friend is in the right emotional state to start work then yes.. If they are ubset and still hurting then id say wait until their emotions are in order and move foward. I for some reason feel that the underlining issue is that grandma may not have approved of work like this and the person is worried if they will intervene because of it or be insulted due to the work. Id suggest she spends sometime talking with grandma even sitting at her grave and sit and silence, being some of her favorite things, speak with her and listen in silence for respones, tell grandma why she she is doing it and seek her blessing.. good luck!

bzbee12 · Unread post by **bzbee12** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:03 pm

That makes sense. I will let her know.
Thanks J82.

Yoseph · Unread post by **Yoseph** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:56 am

Hello !!
I'm a Lucky Mojo customer and I'am self taught, w/some success & some failure.
Awhile back I bought 3 spell kits, th 7=11 kit - th Van Van Kit - & th Crown of Success kit.
The Most problem I had with myself and my new Practice of HooDoo was burying in my yard & throwing bath & cleaning water at crossroads. (well, the burying I've done, my next feat is walking around the block to a choice crossroad) & throwing my waters over my left sholder at the sunrising. Being I live in a City area its really been on my nerves about that,but I gotta doit. right ? ( I never seen anything posted about doing it out of your car, then driving back & finishing the work. So! Up Up away we go. ) And now its conducive for me to do the Van Van kit ritual, The day,The Moon, My crossroad is found & My nerves are ready.. WHAT I wanna ask now is, The Mojo bag that is in the Crown of Succes kit I wanna throw under the bowl of the Van Van kit, I only want that success mojo bag exposed not anointed as recommended in the crown of success kit, or the Van Van Kit, thats for another time later when the Sun Sign of Leo comes in.
Now when I tattoo the candles with my name on one side and the desire on the other side, I want to use the words from the Crown of Success kit on the Van Van candles which is " open the way, Protect have a clear road , meet w/success", and go on from there with the rest of the van van ritual as prescribe. The Idea is to use "road opener" Open the road - gotta open something right - then work for success ? Tomorrows the 1st van van day, so I asking for score keepers to mentor me about this post & my mojo bag question. Thanks

unlybba · Unread post by **unlybba** » Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:49 am

Hello everyone,

I received the Uncrossing kit and started the work yesterday morning. Because of my recent run of very bad luck, I am not doing so well financially right now and would like to do a money-drawing spell. {I should also take this time to thank St. Expedite for giving me a bit of financial relief out of a really tight spot recently!} My question is, should I wait to do the money-drawing until the Uncrossing work is complete, or is it okay to start the spell while working the Uncrossing?

Unread post by **MissMichaele** » Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:16 pm

My conjure motto is "Use what you've got when you need it." If St. Expedite was recently able to hep you even though you are crossed, I don't see why you couldn't start money drawing work now -- and either re-do it, or watch it take off like gangbusters, once the Uncrossing has taken effect.

Good luck and good magic,

Miss Michaele

unlybba · Unread post by **unlybba** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:26 am

Thank you for the reply! I think I'm going to start something this weekend.

Yoseph · Unread post by **Yoseph** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:46 am

I recounted the idea and decided not to mix.
Y.

Unread post by **JayDee** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:44 pm

Question about water, iv done a drive by in the car it works, but then again if you have a car just drive to a crossroad thats not in the city, problem solved! throwing to the east before sunrise is to draw it to you. Bury in the yard is to draw it to you, which I assume you want. your post is more confusing then chinese handcuffs. I get the idea road open the success, but here is an idea, how about you do them exactly to the directions since Cat made them specific based on tradition and what works. Its not uncommon to use more then one kit for one goal.. but do one as desiganted with its goal then start the next. you can wait for the right time period or if you cant wait, hoodoo does not get caught up on the time issue.

Headstrong · Unread post by **Headstrong** » Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:27 pm

Hello

Just recently joined. I have a quick question.

Anyway my questions are:

1) I started a honey jar on monday burning one pink candle (anointed with olive oil). I started a novena for st martha on tuesday with red candle anointed with olive oil. Also, on tuesday for my honey love jar, i burned two different candles different times. One at noon (red) and another at 9pm.. Is that okay or is that too much?

2) If i ordered an intraquility candle to be prayed over by the missionary independent spiritual church, would it interefere with all the rest i have?

Thank you
Headstrong

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:55 pm

Headstrong,

1) A honey jar is for sweetness. Saint Martha is petitioned to have control over someone who may now have the upper hand, to rule them, to tame them.The two spells don't mesh very well, because either you want to rule and control or you want to win through sweetness. Doing both at once seems a bit confused.

2) The Intranquil Spirit is a doomed dead ghost who can never reach Heaven and whom you petition to make your lover suffer until he or she returns to you "humble as a sheep." The Intranquil Spirit works well with Saint Martha, but not at all well with a honey or sugar jar, in my opinion.

You seem to be having trouble deciding what, exactly, you want. Do you want to rule, control, and force someone to come back, or do you want them to treat you nice and to feel loving and sweet to you?

You can't hit a dog with a stick and expect it to love you. It may fear and obey you, but it will do so as much out of fear as out of the normal type of bonding that it would have had if you had treated it gently and kindly.

So, all in all, this is not a case of spell overload or two many spells, but of two spells (Saint Martha and the Intranquil Spirit) going in one direction and one spell (the honey jar) going in another direction. The spells don't exactly "interfere" with one another, but they demonstrate conflicted desires on your part, and an inner conflict like that can lead to failure of one's work.

I personally would not perform love work in this way.

Your mileage may vary.

Headstrong · Unread post by **Headstrong** » Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:34 pm

Okay thank you

I read somewhere here that with st martha and honey jar would be good together because intranquility is a little on the bad side when summoning spirits. Ill continue with honey jar until friday when i need to see him and talk and see where that goes. First night i did the honey jar he texted and called as that was in my petition but also 4 other things that i had petitioned. I prayed to st martha just yesterday.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:57 am

Intranquil spirit is not bad as long as you know what you are doing.

I do think if you were going to use both methods you wouldn't use them at the same time. So for example if I wanted my ex back I may do it with a reconciliation honey jar, but keep him tied to me with saint martha especially if he known to wander.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:49 am

Stars, that makes sense to me. The two works -- Saint Martha and Reconciliation Honey Jar -- can be done at alternating intervals with no problem.

For me the issue of "overload" or "interference" does not come about in this particular case because three candles would be lit (a pink or red free-standing candle dressed with Reconciliation Oil on a honey jar, a Saint Martha vigil light, and an Intranquility vigil light) -- but because burning an Intranquil Spirit candle at the same time as burning a pink reconciliation candle on a honey jar seems muddled and confused to me.

Saint Martha is a dominator who gently rules from below, appearing as a gentle servant, yet with the power to tame and control the wild dragon and/or snake (which can be a metaphor for a wandering man). She would work well with a Reconciliation Honey Jar.

The Intranquil Spirit is a spirit of harassment who brings mental torture to unfaithful lovers and forces the humbled and broken return of an ex. This spirit would work all right with a Saint Martha candle, i suppose (not my first go-to choice, but i have no objections to it) -- but this spirit would not work well with a Reconciliation Honey Jar, in my opinion.

So it is not exactly a case of "overload" or "interference," as i said -- it is that the emotional impulses behind two of the particlar three candles mentioned in this case don't mesh well.

As a contrast, in another part of the forum, as i write this, someone has started a thread titled "Uncrossing, Then Van Van, Then Honey Jar for Reconciliation." Again we see three candles, two of which are glass encased vigil lights, plus a Reconciliation Honey Jar -- but in this case, the interplay and flow between the three is sequential, not simultaneous, and the Reconciliation Honey Jar is the culmination of a program of removing curses and obstacles, changing bad into good, and then renewing love -- rather than a weak side-show in a program that aims at domination and mental torture.

Note that i am not saying one form of work is "better" than the other, only that in one array the vigil lights support the Reconciliation Honey Jar spell Kit and in the other array the vigil lights, taken as a pair, detract from the intention of the Reconciliation Honey Jar Spell Kit.

Headstrong · Unread post by **Headstrong** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:20 pm

Yes that is what I am doing I know st Martha is only prayed on on Tuesday's but I pray to her when needed and she responds like today

though it was something small it did manifest thank u st. Martha and i knew for some reason she wanted some chocolate brownies and a candle stand with altar hehe. I'm going to offer her the brownie for now as when I prayed to her I didn't call out my intention but did so yesterday with a personal prayer, I'm going to offer her the brownie now

as for my honey jar wether he replies or not I know it's working

thank u. If all else fails then I will look into the intranquil spell and st Martha with the missionar church

beekie · Unread post by **beekie** » Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:49 pm

I have never done a honey jar spell and had a couple questions...

- Will a Honey Jar interfere with a vision board? Here's the deal. I want to do a love honey jar, to attract a specific person. However, I recently created a vision board to bring new love in my life. If I do the honey jar, will it "cancel" out my vision board (which is NOT meant for a specific person). Basically will one counteract the other?

- I was reading on this forum that honey jars are more like a nudge.... but could I also put specifics in the jar? So I have this specific person in mind, but i want to make sure certain bases are covered, if that makes sense.

Thanks so much!

swtcls · Unread post by **swtcls** » Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:17 pm

Hi,

I am trying to make my ex miss me and contact me. Is it ok if I use Red Skull candle and Intranquil candle at the same time? Or do I use one of them and finish it, then use the other one after?

Please advise.

Thank you!

Unread post by **Lady Muse** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:17 am

Hello Beekie,
Yes honey Jars are to sweeten a person or situation. If your honey jar is for a specific person and your vision board is not then you are dealing with 2 different intents. Perhaps after you use your vision board to attract new love,then you can use your honey jar to sweeten them on you. Try not to over-think this. Many times we over think things and end up not getting anything done. We don't want that to happen right? So let's get the love work cracking:)
Stay Encouraged and many blessings to you!

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:12 pm

swtcls --

These are fairly different spells, but they have the same intended outcome or goal. I see no reason not to perform them at or around the same time-period.

koettingqueen · Unread post by **koettingqueen** » Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:41 pm

Hello! I have an open-ended question regarding over-doing love magick. I perfectly realize there is no black and white answer for this, especially given the personal circumstances -- but I'd love your opinion and input.

I've been doing serious love work on a man I met through an online dating site early October. When I mean serious, I mean easily 4-5x/wk, several glass vigil candles going and lots of sex magick. At one point I was doing it so much that it seemed as though he was a broken record -- throughout the night he kept repeating "I love you" in MY native language seriously at least 300 times -- in front of his friends and family! The weird thing is that he hasn't said it in English yet. We've been intimate, he now introduces me to all his employees, co-workers, friends and family as his girlfriend, and we frequently travel together. In the recent two weeks I've slowed down the spellwork to only once or twice a week, and voila -- his response to me slowed down too. This is a man who I can truly see myself marrying and being very happy with. He's quite a bit older, very successful and has slight issues "settling down".

I want to solidify the relationship, take it to the next level, have him say 'I love you' in HIS native language (English), and be on the road towards marriage -- preferably WITHOUT turning him into a zombie, like I have in the past.

I'm starting a honey jar spell tomorrow morning -- amazingly I haven't done that yet, and only went for more intense spellwork. Another interesting thing, whenever I use Marriage Oil it seems it he doesn't quite respond to it...he doesn't go crazy like he does with Bewitching (well that's a duh), Love Me and Fire of Passion (another duh)...

I saw ConjureMan Ali's post on breaking through a resistant lover, but haven't tried that yet. In addition, I also have an in-person reading with Miss Cat in about a month -- will be asking her the same question, but you know, a month is a long time away when it comes to love

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Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:53 pm

koettingqueen,

In my opinion, if you have to do THAT much work on a man, and if, when you slow the work down he cools off, you are setting yourself up for a lifetime of serious spell-casting.

You've proven to yourself that you know how to do the work, that you can achieve success with the work, and that ... well, to put it bluntly, you do not want to become a full-time rootworker.

I am one of those women who will pour everything i have, in terms of working that stuff, into getting the man, and then, if i can't bring him all the way to me, i reassess: is this okay as-is, or will i not be happy? When i was single (at various times in my life, both young and middle-aged) i would toll them all in and then date them all and sort them out. The one who stuck and whom i wanted was "the one." Even then, these previous marriages failed for various reasons (and dang if i could not identify the weak point and where the failure would come from each time, but i went ahead anyway). So ...i dunno, hon, this sounds like too much work -- not in terms of doing too much spell-work, but rather in terms of how much spiritual energy you are pouring into a rather stiff and starched man who won't say "i love you."

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:30 am

Miss cat, once again, gives some great experienced advice. This is important and I wish it could be sticky-ed somewhere for all to read. Essential information to understand before work is started, or continued to the Nth degree.